to declare a pizza margherita with ham...

[brightnearly]

...not a pizza margherita?

Had to re-order pizzas earlier on because I didn't read the description on the menu properly, assuming that 'margherita' means tomato-cheese-basil!

Is this a thing, or did I happen upon the one restaurant in the world where ham is added as a matter of course? I'm currently in France.

[AdmiralData]

I cooked Italian food for 7 years and a margherita was as you say. Margherita with ham is a ham pizza

[AdmiralData]

Bright I've been revising my pizza knowledge ... at stupid o clock ... and discovered there is a Scottish pizza supper! Apparently it consists of a frozen pizza, folded in half, dipped in batter and tried! Why have I never heard of this?!?! Salt and vinegar may be added or sauce (the web didn't specify which sauce). I thought nothing on this earth would beat a parmo

[AdmiralData]

Fried* they don't take the pizza to court obviously.

[TheMaddHugger]

ohhh DAta that sounds wonderful. :D

[NightOwlKitty]

Pizza dipped in batter and fried does indeed exist. It is a pizza crunch (or heart attack on a plate!!) and disgustingly rather nice. (Have had it twice in ten years!! ) Order a pizza or pie in most Scottish chip shops though and they seem to just chuck it in the fryer!

[TheMaddHugger]

Yummmmmmmmmmmmm Serious Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[NightOwlKitty]

The ones I've seen aren't folded in half so look more like this. I Cannot believe I am talking about chip shops...

[gastropod]

They aren't very good at pizza in France. I don't think I ever had a really good one in 8 years of living there. And they do strange things like put creme fraiche on their pizza. And most pizzas there come with ham whether you like it or not!

[acasualobserver]

Ham on a Margherita: typical shabby French behaviour.

[brightnearly]

Admiral next holiday has to be in Scotland now - that is food!

NightOwl I would not eat pizza that looks like fried processed chicken in a coat of cornflakes!

[Amalfimamma]

There is a fried pizza here in italy too. It's normal pizza dough, topped with tomato, ricotta cheese and either ham or salami, folded in half and fried. AFAIK it's available only in napoli and the napoli area (and my home every so often)

OP a pizza margherita with ham is a ham pizza so YANBU

[IHaveBrilloHair]

I love a dirty pizza crunch supper on occasion, the chippy at the end of my street does them.

[HermioneJeanGranger]

YANBU but in my experience, all french meals come with meat whether you like it or not!

[brightnearly]

Today I had grated carrot and leeks on my pizza (only one step away from cauliflower!)! 🍕

[RhiWrites]

Being a vegetarian in France is a sign of moral failure. The ham is probably there to prevent any herbivores from attempting to enjoy pizza.

[PerspicaciaTick]

My DD went on a school trip to France this year. The hotel served chicken with a rather nice side salad to everyone - except the veggies who were not allowed to eat the nice salad, but were presented with a bowl of beetroot each for their meal. Similar happened on the second night, nice food with vegetables for the meat eaters, a plate of tomatoes each for the veggies.
I think the chef had issues with vegetarianism.

[lolalament]

There was a thread here a few months ago with the same issue - so either you've both visited the same restaurant, or there are at least 2 places that serve margarita with ham

[BarbaraofSeville]

Ham doesn't count as meat in France, or Spain either. It's an extremely common thing for vegetarians to watch out for - don't be surprised if your salad, pizza, tomato pasta etc has sprinkled on it, even if you have carefully learnt how to say 'I don't eat meat including ham, please don't put any in my food'.

I think they use it like a garnish, like other countries use parsley.

[Huldra]

I ordered a vegetable spring roll at a snack plce in France a couple of weeks ago and that had fucking ham in it. Why? Fucking WHY??

[Scribblegirl]

Agree that France is shocking for veggies, so if it was going to happen anywhere...

[FoxesOnSocks]

Strictly speaking I think margherita isn't vegetarian so any French pizza chef shouldn't need to panic about the nation moral failings!

[TallulahTheTiger]

You can't beat a fried pizza at 4am if you've been out! Or a King Rib supper now that is just proper junk food!

[PolkadotsAndMoonbeams]

I think 'sauce' might be a mixture of brown sauce and vinegar - you get it in Edinburgh chip shops.

[malmi]

In Slovakia I ordered a 'Pizza Vegetariana' and it came with ham on it.

[Huldra]

Ordered a mixed vegetable sandwich from a Spanish tapas place and the mixed part turned out to be masses of tuna. You would think that would be mentioned on the menu, seeing as they listed the vegetables in it. It was a good looking sandwich too and that made me sad.