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to declare a pizza margherita with ham...

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brightnearly Tue 30-Aug-16 04:06:02

...not a pizza margherita?

Had to re-order pizzas earlier on because I didn't read the description on the menu properly, assuming that 'margherita' means tomato-cheese-basil!

Is this a thing, or did I happen upon the one restaurant in the world where ham is added as a matter of course? I'm currently in France.

AdmiralData Tue 30-Aug-16 04:23:37

I cooked Italian food for 7 years and a margherita was as you say. Margherita with ham is a ham pizza grin

AdmiralData Tue 30-Aug-16 04:33:31

Bright I've been revising my pizza knowledge ... at stupid o clock ... and discovered there is a Scottish pizza supper! Apparently it consists of a frozen pizza, folded in half, dipped in batter and tried! Why have I never heard of this?!?! Salt and vinegar may be added or sauce (the web didn't specify which sauce). I thought nothing on this earth would beat a parmo grin

AdmiralData Tue 30-Aug-16 04:34:31

Fried* hmm they don't take the pizza to court obviously. blush

TheMaddHugger Tue 30-Aug-16 04:38:13

ohhh DAta that sounds wonderful. :D

NightOwlKitty Tue 30-Aug-16 04:45:17

Pizza dipped in batter and fried does indeed exist. It is a pizza crunch (or heart attack on a plate!!) and disgustingly rather nice. (Have had it twice in ten years!! grin) Order a pizza or pie in most Scottish chip shops though and they seem to just chuck it in the fryer!

TheMaddHugger Tue 30-Aug-16 04:48:42

Yummmmmmmmmmmmm Serious Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmm


NightOwlKitty Tue 30-Aug-16 04:56:12

The ones I've seen aren't folded in half so look more like this. I Cannot believe I am talking about chip shops...

gastropod Tue 30-Aug-16 05:18:05

They aren't very good at pizza in France. I don't think I ever had a really good one in 8 years of living there. And they do strange things like put creme fraiche on their pizza. And most pizzas there come with ham whether you like it or not!

acasualobserver Tue 30-Aug-16 07:21:57

Ham on a Margherita: typical shabby French behaviour.

brightnearly Tue 30-Aug-16 07:30:48

Admiral next holiday has to be in Scotland now - that is food! grin

NightOwl I would not eat pizza that looks like fried processed chicken in a coat of cornflakes!

Amalfimamma Tue 30-Aug-16 07:39:13

There is a fried pizza here in italy too. It's normal pizza dough, topped with tomato, ricotta cheese and either ham or salami, folded in half and fried. AFAIK it's available only in napoli and the napoli area (and my home every so often)

OP a pizza margherita with ham is a ham pizza so YANBU

IHaveBrilloHair Tue 30-Aug-16 07:44:30

I love a dirty pizza crunch supper on occasion, the chippy at the end of my street does them.

HermioneJeanGranger Tue 30-Aug-16 08:13:33

YANBU but in my experience, all french meals come with meat whether you like it or not!

brightnearly Wed 31-Aug-16 12:39:21

Today I had grated carrot and leeks on my pizza (only one step away from cauliflower!)! 🍕

RhiWrites Wed 31-Aug-16 12:44:51

Being a vegetarian in France is a sign of moral failure. The ham is probably there to prevent any herbivores from attempting to enjoy pizza.

PerspicaciaTick Wed 31-Aug-16 12:55:10

My DD went on a school trip to France this year. The hotel served chicken with a rather nice side salad to everyone - except the veggies who were not allowed to eat the nice salad, but were presented with a bowl of beetroot each for their meal. Similar happened on the second night, nice food with vegetables for the meat eaters, a plate of tomatoes each for the veggies.
I think the chef had issues with vegetarianism.

lolalament Wed 31-Aug-16 12:57:02

There was a thread here a few months ago with the same issue - so either you've both visited the same restaurant, or there are at least 2 places that serve margarita with ham

BarbaraofSeville Wed 31-Aug-16 13:01:51

Ham doesn't count as meat in France, or Spain either. It's an extremely common thing for vegetarians to watch out for - don't be surprised if your salad, pizza, tomato pasta etc has sprinkled on it, even if you have carefully learnt how to say 'I don't eat meat including ham, please don't put any in my food'.

I think they use it like a garnish, like other countries use parsley.

Huldra Wed 31-Aug-16 13:03:40

I ordered a vegetable spring roll at a snack plce in France a couple of weeks ago and that had fucking ham in it. Why? Fucking WHY??

Scribblegirl Wed 31-Aug-16 13:10:59

Agree that France is shocking for veggies, so if it was going to happen anywhere...

FoxesOnSocks Wed 31-Aug-16 13:26:25

Strictly speaking I think margherita isn't vegetarian so any French pizza chef shouldn't need to panic about the nation moral failings!

TallulahTheTiger Wed 31-Aug-16 15:01:14

You can't beat a fried pizza at 4am if you've been out! Or a King Rib supper now that is just proper junk food!

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Wed 31-Aug-16 15:04:13

I think 'sauce' might be a mixture of brown sauce and vinegar - you get it in Edinburgh chip shops.

malmi Wed 31-Aug-16 15:31:26

In Slovakia I ordered a 'Pizza Vegetariana' and it came with ham on it.

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