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to think that we should pay more in tax?!

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MenMust Mon 29-Aug-16 19:28:51

I am wondering whether tax rates should go up rather than public services being cut. When I first started working tax rates were around 33% and now they are down to 20% and services are being cut. More tax should be raised from large companies and from the rich but I also think that if we want to keep our services including the NHS then we all maybe need to pay more in tax. any views on this?

Lunar1 Mon 29-Aug-16 19:35:03

40% from us is more than enough thank you.

TopKittyKat Mon 29-Aug-16 19:39:09

I agree, I'd happily pay more tax to safeguard services.
I'm pleased that some of the efficiency drives have happened as I don't think civil set ants should travel first class and I think some areas have been too top heavy with senior officials and not enough 'doing' staff. I think there comes a time though where we need to pay more.

fakenamefornow Mon 29-Aug-16 19:39:15

No. I do most definitely think company profits should be distributed more fairly though instead of all sucked up my the tiny percentage at the top while many many employees of hugely profitable companies need state benefits to feed themselves.

GeneralBobbit Mon 29-Aug-16 19:39:46

It's not 40% hmm - it's 40% over a certain amount

We're both in that bracket and would very happily pay much more tax and have better services. I would rather we had tax rates like Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark - and their level of public services

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost Mon 29-Aug-16 19:40:25

Well I'll take liberties to assume that you could afford these higher taxes or you wouldn't be proposing them, but not everyone could just magically find the extra money, especially. If you've not had a pay rise. There's nothing more annoying and grating than an "I'm alright Jack. It won't effect me and mine so to hell with the rest of them.

GeneralBobbit Mon 29-Aug-16 19:41:06

And I want companies taxed more too

Amazon and all companies that make fortunes out of us Brits should be paying tax here instead of claiming they're Head office is in Monaco or summat

Allibear Mon 29-Aug-16 19:42:26

Maybe we should just make sure that the super rich are actually paying theirs? I'm sure we'd be fine then hmm

HoneyDragon Mon 29-Aug-16 19:44:50

I pay a lot of tax. But like people who pay a lot of tax I'd only be happy to pay more if the big boys paid tax at all.

The systems screwed not the amounts.

specialsubject Mon 29-Aug-16 19:45:00

yes - as well as clamping down on tax avoidance schemes; Starbucks, Amazon, Westwood etc.

the personal allowance has gone up quite a lot, but we've got way too many people for our services. Advice to someone in this household situation would be to spend less and raise income. We could cut quite a lot of waste (HS2, management consultants etc etc) but we need to bring in more. The extra people aren't leaving.

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe Mon 29-Aug-16 19:46:03

I'd be happy to pay more tax but only in the form of VAT so that it was fair and that everyone was paying it, including the wealthy retired.

I wouldn't like to pay more income tax though.

But why does the NHS need money? Isn't it going to get something like £44 million a year now that we're leaving the EU?

OlennasWimple Mon 29-Aug-16 19:46:42

I agree that there are areas (organisations and sectors) that aren't paying their way at the moment. But I also agree that I would rather pay higher taxes and get great services than pay lower taxes and see the cuts continue

HermioneWeasley Mon 29-Aug-16 19:47:01

Including national insurance I pay 50% - I think that's enough.

I would rather we had smaller, more efficient government services that pay more into an endless black hole

Soubriquet Mon 29-Aug-16 19:47:14

No

Big companies ought to pay their tax and stop dodging

BodsAuntieFlo Mon 29-Aug-16 19:47:16

No! I don't think we should pay more tax. FFS it's 45% as it is. So, OP what tax rate would you suggest people in the higher tax bracket pay as I think we already pay plenty thank you very much!

alltouchedout Mon 29-Aug-16 19:49:58

I'd happily see a rise.

It's usually the richer people who most dislike this idea. Funny that.

VoyageOfDad Mon 29-Aug-16 19:50:25

I'd be a start if HMRC managed to (a) collect all the tax revenue, and (b) stop doing deals with multinationals that let them off the hook.

Stop situations where the tax payer picks up the bill for some bloated capatalist who's stripped a company and drained the pension fund.

I'm happy to pay my share of tax, I'd be happy to contribute more but only if wealthy companies and individuals do too.

iwouldgoouttonight Mon 29-Aug-16 19:51:49

I agree OP, it's the only fair way to make good quality health, education, etc available to all, not just those who can afford to 'go private' or buy expensive houses in good school catchment areas.

But I agree with PP that more should be done firstly about big businesses and high earners who are avoiding paying tax. But this government will never do that because then all their rich friends will be worse off.

I don't think low earners should pay more tax but those on high wages, over £30k a year or whatever, should pay more. And the mega rich, say over £100k should be paying at least 50% again.

TypicallyEnglishMustard Mon 29-Aug-16 19:52:10

What about those of us who live hand to mouth as it is? How are we supposed to find the extra cash to pay bills and buy food if we are paying higher tax bills?

Fuck that, make sure the folk at the top pay more/any tax at all.

ShiroiKoibito Mon 29-Aug-16 19:53:35

i'd also rather see those who can and should pay it, actually paying it - like inheritance tax for example - what a load of fucking shit -
www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/inheritance/inheritance-tax-and-how-the-dukes-of-westminster-avoid-it-on-the/

and
He also will not have to have to pay the vast death duties that should, in theory, accompany such a fortune.
With house prices continuing to rise, and the Government stubbornly maintaining the inheritance tax threshold at £325,000, more of us than ever will subject our decedents to inheritance tax payments upon our departure from this earth.
www.saracenssolicitors.co.uk/estate-planning-wills/how-the-new-duke-of-westminster-will-avoid-inheritance-tax

I'll have to sell my mums house when she dies, but its ok because the duke of westminster gets to keep all of his £9 BILLION!!! tosser

Chikara Mon 29-Aug-16 19:55:26

Speak for yourself.

I don't want to pay any more a all thank you. I would rather see:
a) Everyone paying what they owe
b) A fairer allocation of public services
c) Greater efficiency - there is a lot of waste

MrsMargoLeadbetter Mon 29-Aug-16 20:00:44

I feel the same OP. When services for the worse off are being cut I think taxes are a potential income generator. I am a higher rate payer, and wouldn't object to modest rise.

I agree there are other ways to raise income (reduce tax avoidance, ensure public services are efficent etc) but I cannot help feel that we need to pay more for what we are used to - universal healthcare etc.

TheNaze73 Mon 29-Aug-16 20:01:16

40% is more than enough already.

FinallyHere Mon 29-Aug-16 20:01:29

As for the working tax credits, I would much rather we found a way to insist employers pay a living n the first place, rather than pay peanuts which are then subsidised by the tax payer. This appears to be a benefit for the employees, whereas its really a subsidy for the employer, keeping their wage bill down.

YokoUhOh Mon 29-Aug-16 20:01:44

YANBU. Even though the tax-dodging fuckers at Google aren't paying their fair share, I'd still pay more tax in order to have less inequality.

I hate it when people say 'I don't have kids, so why should I pay for schools?' etc. Go and live on the moon, no taxes there (not much else, either).

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