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To think that Donald Trump has hit the self-destruct button.

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tanfield90 Fri 12-Aug-16 09:41:46

His latest pronouncement is that Barack Obama founded ISIS, or words to that effect.

Anyone would think he didn't really want the Presidency.

Where do people like him come from ?confused

SexLubeAndAFishSlice Fri 12-Aug-16 09:43:27

God knows. It's terrifying to think he actually has a chance of being president sad

splendide Fri 12-Aug-16 09:43:43

I wonder if he does really want to throw it. I'm not convinced he really wants to win.

Spudlet Fri 12-Aug-16 09:47:20

YABU, but only because he has said so many insane things already and still people seem willing to vote for him. There doesn't seem to be anything he can say that will put them off. Hopefully a minority of people, but still...! confused

ShotsFired Fri 12-Aug-16 09:52:43

Unfortunately people are still going to vote for him in their millions. Tens of millions. I watched a new clip recently which interviewed Trump supporters to ask what he'd have to do to lose their vote.

Coming out as a Nazi would be fine with one guy - he already had a few Nazi friends.
Committing child abuse made a woman stop and think for a second, but on balance she'd still vote him in anyway.
Some just declared that there was absolutely NOTHING that would stop them voting for him.

There is a reason why the proverb of "may we live in interesting times" is not always a good thing. confused

TheDowagerCuntess Fri 12-Aug-16 09:58:38

The man's delusional, and so are his supporters, of which there are many.

Fortunately, there are also many, many well-adjusted, decent, thinking, educated Americans as well, who don't want a bar of him.

And every day, he is alienating a few more people.

He won't be president, but it does rely on the decent, thinking Americans actually getting off their arses on election day.

TheDowagerCuntess Fri 12-Aug-16 10:01:57

In other words, the people who love him, want to have his babies. But the people who hate him, loathe him - and on balance, there are more of those people.

EdmundCleverClogs Fri 12-Aug-16 10:05:05

I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but there's something odd about this whole presidential vote, especially on the Trump side. I don't believe for a second that this is the 'real him' or his true intention. Have no good idea what exactly is going on, and can absolutely believe his 'hard core' supporters are real, nasty, racist arseholes who would love nothing more than see the rise of Hitler 2.0. Whatever is going on, the fact there's so many supreme right-wing facist around is more worrying than anything.

MadameCholetsDirtySecret Fri 12-Aug-16 10:08:00

It seems like a weird sociological experiment. How batshit does someone have to be before he is considered unsuitable for high office.?

TheDowagerCuntess Fri 12-Aug-16 10:09:52

Absolutely, Edmund - he isn't the problem, his supporters are - and they'll be around for a LOT longer than he will...

Birdsgottafly Fri 12-Aug-16 10:14:55

I have a lot of Americans on my FB, because of the games that I used to play and some of them (Trumps supporters) link lots of suff that 'show' that Obama supports ISIS and they believe it.

Some of the non supporters link Trump in interveiws from the 90's, in which he's making statements about how stupid/easily influenced, a large percentage of the Voters are and can be swayed by nonsensical policies and ideas, if it's dressed up in the right way.

morningtoncrescent62 Fri 12-Aug-16 10:21:20

YANBU to think his latest pronouncements are the latest in a string of aboslute filth that would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous. YABU to think that he's hit the self-destruct button. For reasons that are utterly unfathomable to me, he still has gazillions of supporters no matter what he comes out with. confused

BeMorePanda Fri 12-Aug-16 10:41:20

People may be willing to vote for him despite anything he says/does, but you've got to think at some point very soon theRepublican Party will step in and declare "not in our name" and sack him.

dancetilldawn Fri 12-Aug-16 10:50:27

It seems to be a requirement that anyone in the running for presidency has to be rich. Nearly every president so far has been wealthy. That's what's wrong in US politics imo.

Lweji Fri 12-Aug-16 10:51:23

Or desperation. He got nominated on being outraging and putting down his opponents, and thinks deluded himself it's a winning strategy.

FinallyHere Fri 12-Aug-16 10:52:54

Did you see the tweet, suggesting an idea for a new reality TV show? Build a set of the white house, put Trump into it and see what he gets up to.

CoolioAndTheGang Fri 12-Aug-16 11:09:01

Trump has been quoted (back in the 90's) of saying if he ever decided to run for president, he would run as a republican because they'd believe anything he'd say. He was right, it's true. Trump becoming president is even more worrying because he is rich in his own right , before anyone would attempt to pay money towards a corrupt government.

Lweji Fri 12-Aug-16 11:09:25

Sort of like the Truman show?

But people manipulate what Trump sees and is told so he thinks he won the election? Complete with fake State of the Union address?

Lweji Fri 12-Aug-16 11:11:30

because he is rich in his own right

That has not been fully proven. Estimates of his fortune vary widely.

Idliketobeabutterfly Fri 12-Aug-16 11:15:02

Personally I think it is a game of 'who can I offend next' and I don't think there is many people left for him to offend. He's bat shit crazy but people will start vote for him.
I am more worried about his history of bankruptcies, business and personal, though.

TheNaze73 Fri 12-Aug-16 11:32:56

Why is he so popular? I just don't get it?

Guess, we are more subdued in the UK & his statements wouldn't be tolerated

SpanishLady Fri 12-Aug-16 11:39:37

I also wondered what exactly does he need to do or say to put people off - its scary - some of his supporters just make me shudder how can you be a moron in an affluent country - its offensive with the access to education, information, knowledge....I'm hoping he is just conducting an experiment and will stop any minute and say 'only joking'
I reckon they could have him film offending his supporters and they'd still vote for him....

Seren85 Fri 12-Aug-16 11:46:32

The 90s quote thing is fake. Check Snopes. I'm not Trump apologist, he is insane but if we are going to attack him then it needs to be with truth or we are as bad as his supporters and the Obama is an ISIS supporter stuff.

scatterolight Fri 12-Aug-16 11:50:44

"His latest pronouncement is that Barack Obama founded ISIS, or words to that effect."

The key portion of this sentence is "words to that effect". The reason these stories are coming out day after day is a perfect storm of 1. The media is in full attack mode and 2. Trump's ad-hoc improvisational way of speaking.

I think it is counter productive to keep creating these hysterical headlines. When people seek out the videos of Trump speaking they realise that something has been invented which is not there and it further undermines trust in the media.

Both the "Trump calls for assassination of Hillary" and now this "Trump says Obama and Clinton set up Isis" are willful, outrageous extrapolations. Those who already hate Trump will just have their bias confirmed, and those in the middle will see the media is making mountains out of molehills and it may just push them towards Trump rather than away. It's a very silly tactic and is growing more tiresome by the day.

One day Trump may actually say something really terrible but the media have cried wolf so often it will be ignored.

Lweji Fri 12-Aug-16 11:54:57

The key portion of this sentence is "words to that effect".

No, he actually said it. And he IS STILL saying it!
"No, I meant he's the founder of ISIS," Trump said. "I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton."
"He was the founder. His, the way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, okay?"

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