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To pity ISIS.. You will meet our children's generation on the battlefield of civilisation!

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FlyHighLittleBee Sat 23-Jul-16 00:51:31

Shamelessly lifted from the facebook page 'man vs baby'. I hear about these attacks, and worry about the world I've brought my baby DD into. Sharing this with you so it can possibly make you feel a little bit brighter, and stronger, like it did me:

It's been a shocking few weeks.. the murder of Jo Cox, the siege in Orlando.. this horrific Nice attack. All of which seem somehow worse when you have a perfect little human-being to despatch into the future.

I'm not a particularly smart guy, I don't have any wisdom that makes sense of any of this shitty horror. It just makes me really sad.

But, even though it makes me think about the sort of world Charlie will inherit.. I'm optimistic. The future isn't something we send our children into.. it's something that, in large part, they build from the bottom up. They're not bystanders to the future, they're its fabric.

..And I've come to realise that there's an unstoppable army of us who plan to raise our kids to be smart and funny and fair, tolerant and good.. And to not be total fucking dicks to one another. We're raising them to be the best of us.. And God help the fanatics, the twisted, the dumb and the ignorant who get in their way.

I pity the merciless c*nts who will meet my son's generation on the battlefield of civilisation. They don't stand a chance.

So, for today, fuck you ISIS.. my son and all his friends are on their way... And your pathetic, backwards, caveman brutality will not survive their goodness.

TheFear Sat 23-Jul-16 00:55:30

Yes, fine, but you can't account for the people who are bringing their children up to hate. And they are obviously out there. Not just in the obvious places.
Lately I feel like I don't want my kids to leave the house ever.

TheRollingCrone Sat 23-Jul-16 01:05:01

I kind of get it, but honestly, it's just such a simplistic view of a whole lot of interconnecting geo-political shifts.

I see the good intention, but no, reading that kinda of stuff doesn't reassure me at.

TheRollingCrone Sat 23-Jul-16 01:06:07

At all^

FloatyFlo Sat 23-Jul-16 01:10:04

Yeah sorry I agree with

FloatyFlo Sat 23-Jul-16 01:10:30

...previous posters.

RJnomore1 Sat 23-Jul-16 01:13:52

Op, it's a scAry world but all you can do is send your own little bit of goodness and hope into it.

I share your optimism.

CaoNiMao Sat 23-Jul-16 03:56:40

Facile and naive.

ScarletForYa Sat 23-Jul-16 04:08:01

If only it were that simple. sad

DropYourSword Sat 23-Jul-16 04:10:47

..And I've come to realise that there's an unstoppable army of us who plan to raise our kids to be smart and funny and fair, tolerant and good

I'm pretty sure we're not the first generation of parents who are aiming to bring up decent, civilised children!

KoalaDownUnder Sat 23-Jul-16 04:31:47

What Cao said.

Being 'smart and funny' won't save you from someone with a bomb in their shoe and nothing to lose.


mimishimmi Sat 23-Jul-16 05:16:57

Umm okay except many of us are from backgrounds (eg me Scots and Irish) who know exactly what is going on in terms of arming and funding wackos so that entire communities can be demonized, stolen from and destroyed in the name of civilization. They've done it to us and it's exactly what they are doing to them now ... makes us all sad and miserable.

VikingVolva Sat 23-Jul-16 06:27:18

"there's an unstoppable army of us who plan to raise our kids to be smart and funny and fair, tolerant and good"

Yes, just like the majority of people have always done.

Or is this one of the blogs where someone with a new baby thinks they have just invented parenting?

NotYoda Sat 23-Jul-16 06:29:29

I don't like that post. That's not something I would say, but I do believe all you can do is set your example to your children and send them on their way in the hope they'll use that for good.

EdmundCleverClogs Sat 23-Jul-16 06:37:32

Another agreement with Cao.

I hate to paraphrase our old PM, but we were the future once. People love, people will hate. Most people just get on with it.

I also somewhat resent the attitude of 'our generation is screwed, let's put all our hopes into the next one'. I still have a lot more living to (hopefully) do. I'm not going to still around, twiddling my thumbs and wait for my children to make it all better, will smiles and rainbow farts.

DoNotBlameMeIVotedRemain Sat 23-Jul-16 08:13:39

What a load of old saccharine tosh!

Houseconfusion Sat 23-Jul-16 08:16:30


PrimalLass Sat 23-Jul-16 08:23:00

Sorry - it is a load of shite.

Tessticklesyourfancy Sat 23-Jul-16 08:32:08

Usual Facebook bollocks I'm afraid. Isis and such like have no desire for any civilisation that we would recognise.

SolomanDaisy Sat 23-Jul-16 08:32:38

I notice he's expecting his child to fight only on the 'battlefield of civilisation', as opposed to the actual battlefield into which ISIS wants to drag us. You can bring up your child to be tolerant etc. but the actual battle is probably going to come down to are they going to be the ones willing to throw themselves onto a terrorist wielding an axe on a train or stand in front of a building of refugees to protect them from far right terrorists. Your child won't win that battle by signing petitions on 38 degrees.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sat 23-Jul-16 08:33:59

Not seeing much of the smart fair tolerant mentality in evidence in the man on the street tbh

Witchend Sat 23-Jul-16 08:38:30

One child raised to hate, armed with guns or bombs and prepared to die can kill 100 children raised to love.

doing Sat 23-Jul-16 08:40:32

Look at the world OP. All of it.

What proportion of ^the entire wor^ld are naice middle class types like you/that guy?

And what proportion of the worlds population has been fucked over by naice British types? Properly, nothing-to-lose fucked over?

We're fucked.

thisisafakename Sat 23-Jul-16 08:47:02

I don't understand how it gave you hope. How is the way the new generation is being raised any better or more moral than previous generations? If anything, I would say it's the other way round and we're all screwed. At least when I was growing up, my mum wasn't permanently attached to an electronic device and didn't spend an hour a day taking the 'perfect selfie' while pouting like a duck, or photographing her bum. Could you imagine today's 17/18 year olds showing the bravery and courage of those alive in 1914-18 who were conscripted? I definitely don't think parents today are on the whole bringing up their kids any better than in the past. So yeah, I doubt ISIS, who actually recruit very young kids themselves in huge numbers, are quaking in their boots.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sat 23-Jul-16 08:48:13


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