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To think that we need a general election

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ReallyTired Sun 26-Jun-16 19:10:58

The recent referendum has shown that our current politicans are totally out of touch with many voters. David Cameron is resigning and I feel that all of us should get to choose the next PM to get us through Brexit. (There can even be an option via the ballot box to vote for a party that promises not to enact article 50 as the election is not legally binding.)

Northernlurker Sun 26-Jun-16 19:15:23

I don't think the electorate can be trusted right now tbh.

AllegraWho Sun 26-Jun-16 19:18:13

I don't understand this call to "elect your own PM". I thought that this country people voted for their own MP, MPand the head of the party that has the majority gets to be PM. And that head is elected by the party members. Isn't that right ?

So, what am I missing ? people intend to choose their next PM?

ReallyTired Sun 26-Jun-16 19:34:26

The current bunch of MPs are totally out of touch with the people. The reality is that people tend to vote for a party when choosing their MP. The conservative party led by Michael Gove would be incredibly scary.

Labour is not much better. A whole bunch of MPs want to oust Corbyn even though he has been selected by party members.

A huge number of people have signed a petition for a second referendum or asking MPs to vote to ignore the referendum. If a newly elected govement made a decision to ignore the referendum then it would be slightly less undemocratic.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Sun 26-Jun-16 19:35:07


CremeEggThief Sun 26-Jun-16 19:36:59

No. The country and all main parties are in turmoil, so YABU.

Mishaps Sun 26-Jun-16 19:37:51

They cannot ignore it, but they could try and use it as leverage to move the EU in a healthier direction. EU is running scared that this is just the beginning of a break up - if they went in for a bit of reform they might not need to worry.

AdrenalineFudge Sun 26-Jun-16 19:55:00

You cannot undo the Leave vote with a bit of strategic subterfuge. It'll lead to more chaos.

Musicinthe00ssucks Sun 26-Jun-16 20:11:12

A GE right now would be a fucking disaster. The brexiters mainly voted because they have had decades of feeling financially squeezed and not listened to. When people feel like this they resort to desperate measures such as electing the far right. The best that could happen now would be for the Conservative party to install a strong leader, and for labour and the conservatives to work together (Remainers and brexiters) to secure us the best possible exit from the EU. The in fighting needs to stop now so that we can move forward and, hopefully never see the far right rear its ugly head.

maninawomansworld01 Mon 27-Jun-16 00:28:36

YABU, for two reasons:

1: you may not have noticed but the country is in a bit of a pickle right now. It will pass eventually, the sky will not fall in and the seas will not boil. It if you want to prolong it then the best thing you can do is cause more uncertainty - say by holding a general election!
2: precisely WHO would you vote for? Seriously... Corbyn? ...Don't make me laugh! Farrage? Right.... Just the man to delicately negotiate terms for brexit... Not! Do you even know the name of the Lib Dem's current leader? .. Thought not! The Greens? They can't even run a single fucking local council without bankrupting it with their insane policies... They had control of Brighton (I think) a few years ago and screwed it up so badly that Whitehall had to step in, boot them out and sort things out at considerable expense.

CiaoVerona Mon 27-Jun-16 00:38:46

There will be a general election in the next six months with the state of both of the major parties am not sure what good it will do.

What is actual sickening is how many politicians are only concerned about their own elect ability ,they care fuck all for the voters.

Look at whats happened with the Labour party over the last 24 hours trying to over throw JC! They all make me vomit.

This two party system is a joke its the reason you have the likes of Brexit happening people are tired of the bullshit.

HisNameWasPrinceAndHeWasFunky Mon 27-Jun-16 00:41:13

I think a general election is the most viable next step forward.

RandyMagnum Mon 27-Jun-16 00:42:59

No, we had one last year, you can have another one in 2020.

cozietoesie Mon 27-Jun-16 01:01:22

All you need is a repeal of the Fixed Term legislation by a majority of MPs, surely?

nancy75 Mon 27-Jun-16 01:09:37

There is nobody to vote for! Corbyn doesn't have enough people standing by him to form a cabinet and the torys don't have a leader. There would also be the worry that all the brexiters that don't regret their vote would vote ukip- pm Farage sound good to anyone?

cozietoesie Mon 27-Jun-16 01:18:18

I could still see much to recommend it if I were a grandee. They're the ones who will make the decision - as usual.

Just5minswithDacre Mon 27-Jun-16 02:10:29

A huge number of people have signed a petition for a second referendum or asking MPs to vote to ignore the referendum.

For goodness sake.

A much larger number of people voted for 'out' in an appropriately controlled and overseen election.

You don't like the result. Fine. Lots of people agree with you. But can you hear yourself with your 'a huge number of people signed an online petition asking for the democratic election to be ignored' schtick?

How is the petition more legitimate than the referendum?

How are 3 million people more compelling than 17 million?

What do you think the end result is when Parliament starts ignoring legitimate democratic elections?

It's as though everyone is competing to see who can sound most stupid. And arrogant.

Alasalas2 Mon 27-Jun-16 02:39:13

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

21stCenturyBreakdown Mon 27-Jun-16 06:06:33

No thanks - I'm satisfied with both the government and the referendum result.

A huge number of people have signed a petition for a second referendum or asking MPs to vote to ignore the referendum

Since the Remain camp seem so obsessed with the accuracy of percentages and how much of Britain they represent... you realise that your "huge number" is actually not even 8% of the electorate? And that's with the generous assumption that everyone who signed the petition is actually eligible to vote.

branofthemist Mon 27-Jun-16 06:14:56

I don't think a general election is the way to go. It's a simple way of blocking the exit of the EU, but will further destabilise the country.

We can't just keep having votes until it works out that we remain.

The petition will be debated. Nothing will happen, in my opinion. It's a small amount of people in reality. Besides which, if they decided to just not leave the country would end in further shit.

Besides which, no party wants an election right now. They are all a mess at the moment.

branofthemist Mon 27-Jun-16 06:26:56

GMB reporting that the petition is under investigation for fraudulent signatures.

DesignedForLife Mon 27-Jun-16 06:29:02

No. The major parties are s mess at the moment, and a general election won't help anything. There would still be no clear leadership.

TheNaze73 Mon 27-Jun-16 06:31:26


ClashCityRocker Mon 27-Jun-16 06:32:33

Yes I think we need to have one, maybe in the autumn or spring when things have settled down a bit.

If they allowed something as big as the Eu to go to referendum, they can at least let us choose who sees us through it.

StealthPolarBear Mon 27-Jun-16 06:34:06

Agree Dacre

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