after the European result, economics, along with English and maths should be mandatory ?

[Wordsaremything]

So few people seem to grasp the basics. And economics doesn't lend itself to soundbites.

[froubylou]

Maybe they have voted differently to how you feel they should have voted because they have lived different lives to you.

No matter how good your grasp of economics if you have £20 in your purse to last the week and have no food in, no nappies and no gas or electric on in mid January you are a bit fucked.

Lots of people haven't voted the way that makes economic sense because the economically sensible way has left them with fuck all. So they have nothing to lose.

[Roonerspism]

Oh yes. Because no one who voted Leave could possibly understand the economics. I'm sure all you Remain voters did.

I think anyone wanting to Leave the EU must be sub-normal? Is that the thinking here?

Let me say one thing to you. The masses were pretty fucked off being told what to don't the "experts" who had messed up so many times before.

Maybe if we teach economics, we should also teach history too.

Lovely snobbish undertones here.

Ps I studied European economics as part of my degree. I voted Leave. Oops!

[DoreenLethal]

Yes. And ignore the snarky 'this is the wrong board' whingers.

[ApocalypseSlough]

Yes. Although this situation is more to do with the general inappropriateness of referenda to address complicated issues.

[TheDowagerCuntess]

So they have nothing to lose.

Why do people keep saying this...? They have everything to lose.

How will an economy in free-fall help the worst off?

[Whiteplate1]

Another thread to hide

[Roonerspism]

Yes, they are too stupid to realise they too are voting for their kids' futures...

FFS

Some of you need to broaden your social circles

[LilacInn]

Yadnbu

[HildurOdegard]

And teach them what exactly? The same guff the majority spout? The same guff that says "nobody saw 2008 coming"?

[JanetWeb2812]

I do love the Remainers confidence in their own rightness. Maybe they would like to explain why in the 25 years between the first European Referendum (in 1974) and the introduction of the Euro (in 1999) the Sterling-Deutschmark exchange rate plunged from 6 to 2.8? The markets were none too impressed by the UK's performance inside the EEC.

[TheBathroomSink]

Economics massively lends itself to soundbites. See the last few election campaigns. Not to mention, two economists will look at one set of data and come up with three different outcomes.

[CreepingDogFart]

I think lessons in basic citizenship focusing on the concept of democracy would benefit many of those on here who are spouting "Remain" and criticising the "Leave" crowd. Toys out of the pram at its most pathetic.

[abbieanders]

Well the concept of democracy is much like free speech, isn't it? You can vote as you choose and say what you like, but you have to accept that other people are entirely entitled to disagree and express that disagreement.

[WonderMomma]

Ironically immigrants who want a British passport need to pass a Britishness test which includes British politics!!

[froubylou]

What do they have to lose TheDowager?

A job? NMW, 0 hours contract? No hope of progression? Their home? At best social housing. At worst a private rented house they can't afford with mould growing up the walls? The NHS? They can't get a doctor's appointment and can't afford the bus fare to get to hospital and even if they could they couldn't book one in case they get a few hours chucked at them by the 0 hours contract they have and if they say no they won't get any hours for weeks. Their sense of community? They have non. Unless you count the eastern Europeans that spit at them and swear in SlovakiaN or Romania as they walk past the streets piled high with rubbish (Google paige hall in Sheffield if you doubt that this happens).

So what the fuck are they going to lose. They voted for change because anything is better than food banks and poverty year in year out.

[Pinkheart5915]

I assume you think those subjects would make everybody vote remain? But I did take economics and I voted leave.

Thanks for yet another thread to hide

[edwinbear]

I have a degree in economics and work as an investment banker on a trading floor. I voted leave. I'm fully up to speed on the advantages and disadvantages thanks.

[Sparklesilverglitter]

Another one here that studied economics and guess what I voted leave

[Roonerspism]

Zut alors!

An educated person voted Leave?! Economics you say?

Well then, you must be racist. That must be it!

You aren't? You aren't even xenophobic? You are actually well travelled?!

[GinIsIn]

Economics, and politics should definitely be compulsory in schools. Congratulations to those of you on here who are confident in your knowledge. I may not agree with your vote but if you made an informed decision I absolutely respect it. However you only have to open a newspaper, turn on your tv or read some of the EU ref threads on here to see that there is a big section of the vote who were misinformed.

[Pangurban1]

"They voted for change because anything is better than food banks and poverty year in year out."

I don't know how this referendum would bring about any change to help this situation. A different government, possibly.

From the referendum, plans on the back of a fag packet is regarded as being more trustworthy by the Brexit politicians than using expertise. Didn't Michael Gove say that people were sick of 'experts'. Maybe people don't need a GP appointment and should arrange to get the "Royal touch' instead. That may only be good for Scrofula, though.

Who knows now what direction the UK (maybe just Eng and Wales in 10-20years) is going in. Maybe a rogue state out of human rights org? Tax haven for the rich? What kind of welfare state or health service. The pythons have been given free rein.

I highly doubt it will bring change that will help someone who has to go to a food bank. And where were all those voters in the General election that brought this Conservative to power?

[froubylou]

I am not sure either. But the change promised by each of the main parties hasn't happened has it?

So maybe a change from in Europe to out of Europe will. If the leave voters had the answers they would be running the country themselves. But they don't. So rely on the politicians they voted for to do that.

The fact that the turnout was so high in the referendum was because it was something they believed would change things. Many people don't think it matters who is in charge these days. It's all lies and spin.

And for the record I voted remain. Not because I want to stay in Europe but because I believe that the time isn't right to leave now.