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To wonder if anyone is actually running the country and in charge at the moment?

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Lunde Sun 26-Jun-16 10:24:02

So the results are in and it seems like there is no government and no leadership for what is the biggest constitutional reform that British citizens and residents will ever know.

David Cameron has quit - not prepared to be the scapegoat for a policy he doesn't believe in. So he will be a "lame duck" until a new leader is elected and nothing will be decided.

George Osborne seems to be missing - when was he last seen?

The Brexit group of Boris, Gove and IDS etc are looking sheepish and saying there is no hurry anymore - the whole thing can wait and drift for 4 months while the Tories fight about a new leader. Did they even have a plan for Brexit or were they betting on remain winning?

Labour has descended into infighting with sackings, resignations and a leadership challenge.

Farage is smirking like the whole thing is a huge joke and back tracking from the campaign promises and saying that it doesn't matter if there is a recession. Although he always said that his aim with UKIP was to destroy the Tory party so perhaps he has achieved his objectives.

So where is the leadership? Where are the plans? Or are the politicians that brought this mess just going to stick their head in the sand and go on holiday for 3 months?

Ginmakesitallok Sun 26-Jun-16 10:27:05

Cameron is still prime minister until a new leader is elected. The government is still the government.

But you're right about a lack of plans- Brexit had no plans for how an exit would actually happen.

meditrina Sun 26-Jun-16 10:28:45

Yes, unless there is some major crisis, there will be very little active government until the autumn.

This of course might be a good thing grin

The bureaucrats and Eurocrats will be busy though, working out the 'to do' list and options of how to go about it all.

Then business as usual from 6 October.

scousesal Sun 26-Jun-16 10:29:49

This lack of plans is what scares me the most ,how are supposed to trust them when they held this damn vote without even making plans .

LassWiTheDelicateAir Sun 26-Jun-16 10:30:21

I agree with everything you have said.

And will add that in Scotland Sturgeon has also given up actually running the country (not that she ever did much of that) and is mouthing off about drafting legislation for indyref2.

YourPerception Sun 26-Jun-16 10:31:54

The Tory party are making it up as they go along.

Labour has planned to topple JC. They can't win with him and we neee an alternative party for a potential GE.

YourPerception Sun 26-Jun-16 10:32:42

Sturgeon is having to get over the EU giving her two fingers.

specialsubject Sun 26-Jun-16 10:39:15

I was quite staggered to read that no one even knew the mechanism for leaving - this morning it was announced that we send a letter or make a speech. They were arguing about the meaning of 'shall' in the clause.

What, no form to fill in?

So if even that wasn't clear we are up for lots of fun and games.

Noodledoodledoo Sun 26-Jun-16 10:39:37

I am wondering what other items got pushed through, announced in the background over the last few days!!

Ineedmorelemonpledge Sun 26-Jun-16 10:41:41

Yes I've decided I'm in charge, and as yet no one seems to have opposed me.

So if you have any questions or concerns do drop me an email:

I'll be sending details of my Swiss bank account for salary deposits shortly.

Now all of you, as you were...

APlaceOnTheCouch Sun 26-Jun-16 10:42:28

Realistically DC is still PM. And the Tories have said they are having meetings behind closed doors to discuss how they start negotiating with the EU.

There are conversations/ negotiations taking place about who would sit on the cross-party steering committee for Brexit. (I have no idea how Labour will fit into this since they have decided to focus on in-fighting and holding a coup rather than ensuring there is a Labour/left voice in brexit).

Let's be clear, DC announcing his resignation rather than invoking Article 50 (as he had said he would in the result of a leave vote) is about stalling and creating the perception of chaos. One of the EU leaders was very scathing about it, saying DC was continuing to show the lack of leadership he had exhibited when he was at the EU.

legotits Sun 26-Jun-16 10:46:51

Special you just text in I think.
Or finish with them (Europe) on Facebook and change our status. grin

JoJoSM2 Sun 26-Jun-16 10:54:23

I imagine that next week after DC meets with the EU and they have their debate behind closed doors on Wednesday, things might pick up.

Witchend Sun 26-Jun-16 10:56:12

It's interesting that the main infighting seems to be Labour at present. I thought the Tories might split, but not Labour.
Maybe the liberals need to take this opportunity to show some strong leadership and come back as a viable main party. Don't hold your breath though.

Ineedmorelemonpledge Sun 26-Jun-16 10:57:40

Can we call him PM or STBXPM.

DC puts in mind the image of all our MN collective children swarming into Brussels with crayoned posters of UK demands. grin

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter Sun 26-Jun-16 10:58:29

Tbf it's coming up to the summer holidays/house of commons recess, don't they usually wind things down soon anyway? Not that half the country are living being stuck in limbo!

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter Sun 26-Jun-16 10:58:57

*loving not living

Missinglalaland Sun 26-Jun-16 11:10:14

I am very glad that DC did not invoke article 50 immediately. That would be terrible. I appreciate him stalling for time. However, I don't accept him effectively resigning and disappearing when we need leadership. Yes, the vote did not go his way, but he did chose to call the referendum so he does bear some responsibility.

APlaceOnTheCouch Sun 26-Jun-16 11:25:46

Ineedmore he has rather thrown his toys out of the pram.grin There's no reason for him not to be out making statements and reassuring people unless that would upset his weekend away to the country

LassWiTheDelicateAir Sun 26-Jun-16 11:30:57

I am very glad that DC did not invoke article 50 immediately. That would be terrible. I appreciate him stalling for time. However, I don't accept him effectively resigning and disappearing when we need leadership. Yes, the vote did not go his way, but he did chose to call the referendum so he does bear some responsibility


APlaceOnTheCouch Sun 26-Jun-16 12:07:11

If he hadn't stalled for time there wouldn't have been all this uncertainty and panic. It was a tactical move on his part but it doesn't benefit the country. Likewise with the Labour coup. All they are doing is showing their disdain for the electorate. no surprise there

GhostofFrankGrimes Sun 26-Jun-16 12:12:23

The press have let Cameron and Osborne off the hook it is a disgrace.

Lunde Sun 26-Jun-16 12:44:53

I fear Monday may be worse than Friday as it is clear that there is no leadership. I had expected some sort of contingency plan to be rolled out over the weekend but it is clear DC isn't playing and is saying to the Brexit Tories that he is not going to clear the mess. Yes there will be informal phone calls etc but no formal talks can occur.

I think there is probably more infighting in the Conservatives but they rarely do it as transparently as Labour - as I remember from Thatcher's departure they stick the knife in the back while smiling to the face.

In the meantime the markets and businesses will be taking decisions on jobs and the markets on Monday and probably won't wait 3-4 months for the Conservatives to fight party battles

StarryIllusion Sun 26-Jun-16 13:14:06

I've been wondering that for years.

facebookrecruit Sun 26-Jun-16 16:38:34

Nicola sturgeon is a bell end

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