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to try and find some positives from Brexit?

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SeasonalVag Sat 25-Jun-16 15:07:39

I'm utterly devastated with the result, but have to accept that it was the democratic decision.

Trying to find some positive slant on it.

It does mean the end of TTIP, doesn't it?
And does it not mean we have the chance to form trade partnerships with other countries without competiton from the rest of Europe?

Cameron has gone. Another plus.
Hopefully the end of voter apathy which really annoys me every time there's an election.

lazysummer Sat 25-Jun-16 15:15:35

I am also totally devastated, and wondering how it has come to this (uncoordinated, negative campaign; wrong time to have it; Labour being lukewarm etc).
However, to be positive, I am hopeful for the 75% of young voters who voted Remain. They can change things and clear up the mess my generation has made.
The turnout was an improvement, but if everyone had voted the results may have been very different.

scaryteacher Sat 25-Jun-16 17:53:08

Hopefully free trade deals, renewed ties with the commonwealth (if they'll let us).
Nothing has changed for the moment; we have a while before Article 50 is invoked.

We have voted to leave a political monolith,. not mine the Channel and repel boarders! There is an awful lot of the world outside the EU; some of them liberal democracies that aren't signatories to the ECHR, or EU member states and they seem to cope.....

DemocracyGeek Sat 25-Jun-16 18:55:14

I'm a determined glass half full person but I struggle with this one.

London Banker bonuses may well fall.

Nigel Farage will lose his job. smile And probably national media platform.

It will be very interesting (in the worst Chinese sense) to see what happens.

Boris is so vilified that very unlikely to ever be PM.

A GE soon means I get paid again to be a vote counter, and it was a fun atmosphere this time.

The EU insistence on marrying academia with SMEs in EU-funded projects meant accepting poor quality work, I won't have that frustration again.

More world political instability might be a good thing for my DS who wants to go into the military.

Maybe the Breget lot will hound Gove out of office, too.

I quite hope the EU rebounds and is reinvigorated. As likely as any other outcome.

MrsTerryPratchett Sat 25-Jun-16 18:59:51

I live in Canada and am paid dollars and coming to London soon so will buy many handbags.

That was what I came up with yesterday and it's really not enough sad

SeasonalVag Sat 25-Jun-16 19:00:20

I'm hoping for further referenda because the EU does need reform and its reluctance to negotiate has always scared me a little.

MustStopAndThinkBeforePosting Sat 25-Jun-16 19:04:34

Sadly we are more at risk for a TTIP-esque deal now than we would have been with Remain. TTIP was always destined to be vetoed by sensible EU nations (not UK - our government are in favour). When we get to the front of Obama's queue, we will get a deal that is basically TTIP with a different name.

SeasonalVag Sat 25-Jun-16 22:22:09

Oh. Thought we'd avoided that one and presumably we'll be more malleable ARE screwed

HappydaysArehere Sat 25-Jun-16 23:55:50

Cannot think of anything. I wish I could. I can only hope that Boris is not PM. Theresa May would be my only hope. Jeremy Hunt is being mooted! Really, he couldn't even deal with the doctors! Boris has been playing cricket, probably as he is always ready for a photo opportunity, while Gove only managed a weak smile for the cameras. Looked as if they hadn't a clue. Sorry, cannot throw any crumbs of comfort to you.

onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad Sun 26-Jun-16 00:34:53

That we, the remainers, are no longer on the defensive as we have been for months. That the Brexiters will now have to stop bleating and take responsibility for the enormity of what they have done to our country. That Farage and Johnson, who have been hailed as champions of the people for years, are at last being revealed for the liars they truly are.

BearFoxBear Sun 26-Jun-16 00:39:08

Happydays, if theresa may is your hope then we're truly fucked.

WaitroseTrolley Sun 26-Jun-16 00:39:20

democracy how do you get involved with vote counting?

Yes, Boris being fucked seems like a good thing, as so many have predicted him being PM for ages and talked endlessly about his ruthless ambition.

WaitroseTrolley Sun 26-Jun-16 00:39:45

Pretty much bear!

flappingbingowings Sun 26-Jun-16 00:41:05

There are no positives from brexit. The swivel eyed loons have won

Alconleigh Sun 26-Jun-16 00:41:50

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Oliviaerinpope Sun 26-Jun-16 00:48:16

I can genuinely say the Tories ruined the UK, which makes me feel smug as I was right all along.

In seriousness though, no positives at all angry

BearFoxBear Sun 26-Jun-16 00:48:53

What Labour, under a competent leader, should be doing right now is gathering their left wing buddies and saying right, let's join forces against this shower of right wing cunts that are going to crush everyone and everything to satisfy their own desires. Sadly I can picture Corby HQ as the home of tea, rich tea biscuits and dithering. I want to shake the incompetent fucker.

beetroot2 Sun 26-Jun-16 00:56:29

OFGS buck up. We are part of a democracy and the vote was out. Politicians will have to WORK for their salaries and genuinely serve the people of Great Britain. The EU will now have to rethink their ways as will everyone that was in a bubble and forgot that most of the country is made up of working class people.

Free Trade
No more being made to conform to cowtow and to Brussels and their stupid rules
Freedom is a wonderful feeling

BearFoxBear Sun 26-Jun-16 00:58:41

Yeah that's totally what's going to happen...

Alconleigh Sun 26-Jun-16 01:00:24

You have just handed a perpetual mandate to the right of the Tory party. Explain to me how that that will improve the life of workers?

beetroot2 Sun 26-Jun-16 01:08:24

Theres a life outside of a very flawed overly arrogant bureaucratic union. I have never seen such ridiculous tantrums and tears in all my years. Ive been following it all and most are already making u-turns.

WaitroseTrolley Sun 26-Jun-16 01:11:13

Sorry beetroot, can you clarify who are making U-turns? Not trying to pick a fight, I genuinely don't know what you mean, do you mean other countries in the EU?

TendonQueen Sun 26-Jun-16 01:19:39

We'll still get TTIP. The Tories won't have a problem with it and there will be no EU to hold them back.

There are only three positives I can think of, and they're all based on Schadenfreude rather than any real benefit to real people:

1) Boris will now actually have to try and fix all this and will find himself doing a hard job and being unable to coast on charisma for the first time ever. You wanted the job, you take it and all the extra headaches that now come with it!

2) Osborne's top level career and leadership aspirations are toast.

3) Cameron ditto.

I'm frustrated that due to current circumstances of RAGE I can't fully enjoy 2) and 3) as I would like to. They'll have to do for now.

beetroot2 Sun 26-Jun-16 01:20:13

Northern Ireland for one.
Scotland has retracted a lot what was initially said.
The leaders of the EU have said they will co-operate to large extent.

The pound has not plummeted to the degree that the scaremongers suggested.
Worst case scenario is that growth will flatline for a while then increase again.
House prices will drop allowing more first time buyers to get on the ladder.

Change is a good thing.

MrHannahSnell Sun 26-Jun-16 01:28:59

Any EU veto of TTIP won't apply to the UK. We can negotiate our own arrangement. (I support Tt

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