to think immigration is too high

(111 Posts)
mamamea Thu 23-Jun-16 20:08:30

Net migration hit an all-time record high today, according to the Office of National Statistics:

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/uk-population-grew-half-million-net-migration-ons

AIBU to think that given that England is already the second-most densely populated country of its size on the planet (behind only Bangladesh), that immigration is too high and should be reduced to zero, given that we also have a positive (and booming) natural population increase (deaths have never exceeded births in the UK, except perhaps during war)?

Why on earth would we possibly want to pack more and more people into an ever smaller space?

FrancesNiadova Thu 23-Jun-16 20:17:07

biscuit

DesignedForLife Thu 23-Jun-16 20:47:28

biscuit

Capricorn76 Thu 23-Jun-16 20:57:27

FFS.

Waffles80 Thu 23-Jun-16 20:59:14

Or, we could send all the bigots to live elsewhere? Ideal solution really.

Wolfiefan Thu 23-Jun-16 21:00:22

Waffles. That's a bloody awesome idea!! grin

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark Thu 23-Jun-16 21:02:44

That you Nige? Not been invited round to Bojo's gaffe for the pie and pea supper?

PerpendicularVincent Thu 23-Jun-16 21:04:40

Aren't you meant to be campaigning, Nigel?

hidingwithwine Thu 23-Jun-16 21:05:42

Just England eh? or do you mean Britain

biscuit

GinIsIn Thu 23-Jun-16 21:06:46

It's less than 0.5% of the U.K. population. To put it into perspective, there are more gingers in Britain than immigrants. It's probably about a 6th the number of people on mumsnet.

chicaguapa Thu 23-Jun-16 21:07:22

The biggest drain on public services is the aging population and people living longer, not immigration. I think the solution is to limit how long people can live for. That way we can make way for new people and we'll never be full.

wink

Waffles80 Thu 23-Jun-16 21:09:33

That's an even better idea than mine Chica.

VertiginousOust Thu 23-Jun-16 21:09:37

I'm questioning your statistics tbh. Bangladesh is almost half the size of the U.K. By land mass, and has a population density of 1115 people per km2. It's 10th on the list by population density. The U.K. in contrast has a population density of 262 people per km2 and is 51st on the list by population density.
Where did you get your figures from?

FlyingElbows Thu 23-Jun-16 21:09:51

For fuck actual sake will you bigots get your damn heads round the fact the United Kingdom contains three other countries besides bloody England!!!!! Good God why am I even engaging with this twitter?

ShowOfHands Thu 23-Jun-16 21:10:31

Is it Friday yet? I can't take much more of this twattery.

Okay377 Thu 23-Jun-16 21:10:50

There were 828,000 NI registrations to overseas nationals (people paying our taxes) in 2015, an increase of 8% (source: office of national statistics). That's going up too OP. Spoke to a taxi driver today who's been here 6 years and worked out he's paid an average of £300 a month in taxes since then.

I'm sure the many Brits who emigrate likewise work and pay taxes in their new countries. Isn't it wonderful to have a world getting nearer where people can move to new places and find opportunities.

In case it is of interest to you - the number of asylum applications in 2015 (latest data) is low, incidentally, its 38,878 compared to the peak of 103,081 in 2002.

FlyingElbows Thu 23-Jun-16 21:10:51

Twattery. Fucking phone!

Heratnumber7 Thu 23-Jun-16 21:11:37

OP, yes I do.

Ouriana Thu 23-Jun-16 21:11:39

Zero?
Ok I also think mogration levels should be in some way controlled and stabalised working on an array of factors such as housing etc...

But zero? We need qualified people from other countries to do some jobs, not want, need.
Doctors are the perfect example, we need immigrants to train here in medicine and to work in the NHS.

Don't forget how much income some of yhese immigrants pay into the system, our economy and lifestyle depends on immigaration.

i could phrase that much better but Im spent on politocs today

Waffles80 Thu 23-Jun-16 21:11:58

If OP wants to take me up on my Bigot Migration Programme she has to take a genetic test to prove she's 100% English. Any tainting to her pure Anglo blood and she'll have to stay here with all us forriners. not that I want her kind in my back yard

ShowOfHands Thu 23-Jun-16 21:13:27

Don't question the stats Vert. They're true. All illegal immigrants get a mansion and a fucking boat and Jeremy Corbyn kicked my puppy. Facts. All facts.

mamamea Thu 23-Jun-16 21:14:06

I mean net zero. We can still import doctors and have net zero immigration. Lots of people also emigrate.

"Where did you get your figures from?"

World population density. If you exclude small/city states, England (not Scotland) is second only to Bangladesh.

wasonthelist Thu 23-Jun-16 21:15:27

Depressing the number of people on Phone-ins and FB etc that use England and UK interchangeably (and I am English!).

Waffles80 Thu 23-Jun-16 21:16:24

Why doctors would want to be imported to look after objectionable tiny minded folk like you, is beyond me.

Although I live in hope that it's maybe because the majority of people are less objectionable and tiny minded than you?

wasonthelist Thu 23-Jun-16 21:17:26

Jeremy Corbyn kicked my puppy.

grin

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