To think the two girls who kidnapped the toddler in primark

[BettyFea]

Should be put away for a long long time?!
It smacks of Venables and Thomson imo. If these two girls planned to kidnap and sexually assault a toddler at the ages they are now, God only knows what kind of monsters they would grow into!

[PPie10]

Yanbu, vile, disgusting things need to be locked away for a very long time.

[Musicinthe00ssucks]

I am absolutely repulsed by these two creatures. They need to be locked up in a psychriatic institution for a very long time

[Savemefromwine]

Very disturbing case

[PenelopePitstops]

I'm concerned about who or what let them turn into such damaged young people.

They are probably the victims of some sort of abuse to think their actions are in any way normal.

They need kindness, compassion and a lot of psychiatric help.

[Pinkheart5915]

It was a very disturbing case.
OP as you say if they have vile thoughts now imagine what they will be capable of as adults

[Birdsgottafly]

They are very damaged young people.

They are the sort of 'Monsters' that abusive childhoods create.

Hopefully the right physiological services will be available, for however long they need treatment/help, for.

They won't ever get to lead the life that they should be, but they can get to a non offending level of living.

[WellErrr]

Has there been an update on the story? Have they said why they took the child?

[dillydotty]

Horrifying.

No excuse at all but sadly the majority of abusers were abused themselves. That is not saying all people who were abused abuse others.

This cycle must be stopped. The question is, how?

[LuluJakey1]

I would bet they get very short sentences in a secure unit.

[BettyFea]

I honestly don't think after something like that anybody would ever be happy to have young children around them. You could promise me they are totally rehabilitated- I wouldn't let them babysit my son! They should be on a register for life, but I imagine, as usual, the criminals will be protected more than the victims.

[FuzzyOwl]

It's very disturbing and I hope they get the right treatment that they need but at the same time, are never a risk to any other children.

[zippey]

Yes they should definitely NOT receive long sentences, but should get a short sentence with lots of rehabilitation and care to try and build up their sense of right and wrong.

[SolomanDaisy]

I suspect a long sentence wouldn't be the best way to reduce the risk of them reoffending. They're very young and have obviously had horrible childhoods. A shorter sentence, intensive psychiatric support and a supportive family environment to live in is more likely to move them towards not offending against .

[Birdsgottafly]

""Were they already in care?""

Various Foster placements, known to be victims of abuse.

It's shocking the way that psychological services aren't made readily available to abused children.

They either have to offend, or wait until something happens, when they reach adulthood.

[WellErrr]

Why have they obviously had 'horrible childhoods'?

Even so, plenty of people have awful childhoods.
They just don't kidnap 2 year olds with that intention.

I don't believe that people like this can ever be useful members of society.

[VestalVirgin]

Didn't read about the case ... if they're children, the only thing that can be done is putting them in psychiatric care, and that's what has to be done, anyway - if we assume they didn't come up with that idea themselves, then they clearly have been abused and need years and years of therapy.

[blueturtle6]

Officers recognised the two girls and knew where they'd be. Obviously the girls where already well known to police....

[HonkHonkNose]

God that's terrifying. Throw away the key and let them deal with their karma in prison.

It's so hard to get your head around this anyway but my dd is 2yo. Bloody frightens the life out of me, the thought of anything happening to her.

[Pinkheart5915]

I don't believe you can rehabilitate them.

I know they are probably the way they are because of abuse of such like themselves but that is NO excuse for what they done.

[LadyStarkOfWinterfell]

Children that young don't do things like that out of nowhere. I would bet money that they were abused and groomed by much olde paedophiles. It's not an excuse but it's an explanation. Children who have been abused and neglected are highly vulnerable to predatory abusers.

[LadyStarkOfWinterfell]

Of course therI is a chance they can be rehabilitated. I know of a young woman who did a very bad thing at that age and she has been successfully rehabilitated through therapy and custodial sentence.

[Believeitornot]

Even so, plenty of people have awful childhoods. They just don't kidnap 2 year olds with that intention

But you're more likely to do so if you have a terrible childhood with a warped sense of boundaries and morality.

All the more reason to have better early years interventions, better mental health services for children etc.

[dillydotty]

How do you know if they can be rehabilitated? Do you know the children in question? It seems a big statement to make about a child you know little about.

I would imagine one of the children was the instigator. It would be unusual for two girls with such twisted desires to get together.