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nursery enabling someone to park on double yellows

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MrsHardy1 Wed 08-Jun-16 00:18:20

Nursery is a pre-school attached to a primary and junior school. It has 2 doors. Door 1 opens up on to a bit of pavement and a road so you have to walk through both school playgrounds to collect ds from the main nursery entrance (door 2).

There's a dad that always parks directly outside the nursery, on the pavement which is painted with yellow lines. The school have text parents about parking before. The dad has given me a mouthful of abuse for nearly knocking his car whole trying to squeeze my buggy past. Told nursery, the school sent another text about parents not parking on yellow lines.

The nursery staff allow him to pick his DD up from door 1. Just so he can park in his convenient spot! Today I was walking past this door as his DD was being handed over. I stopped and thought they might send my ds out, to which the teacher tells me I'll have to walk all the way round as they aren't meant to let children out of this door due to it being near the road! Which is fine, but why can't they tell this man the same?

I really want to say something tomorrow. I feel like they are enabling/encouraging this man to park on yellow lines on the pavement. I'm sure he'd be discouraged once he was told he'd have to walk around to the main entrance everyday like the rest of us!

And no, he isn't physically unable. We're members of the same gym. Just can't be bothered to walk the long way/sometimes has his dogs in the car. I don't know if I should say anything to nursery tomorrow?

GiddyOnZackHunt Wed 08-Jun-16 00:23:22

You could but if there's any kind of reason why they allow the child to be picked up from that door, they're unlikely to be able to share it with another parent.
Or you could just not stress about it confused

MrsHardy1 Wed 08-Jun-16 00:29:41

I'm not stressed about it. Just annoyed.

I told the nursery he had been abusive and they said 'he has been told he's not allowed to park there anyway! We'll send all parents a text reminder'. So I don't think there's a 'reason', just they don't want to challenge him because he's rude.

enterYourPassword Wed 08-Jun-16 00:36:40

Id absolutely talk to them. Especially as they'd refused to let you get your child from the same door I'd have been more pissed off because of that than anything else.

VioletBam Wed 08-Jun-16 00:57:31

We had similar issues at my DDs school and someone...don't know who...called the local police to speak about the many issues which resulted in the police regularly turning up and drop off time to "help"

They made their presence felt and the issues stopped.

TendonQueen Wed 08-Jun-16 01:02:32

I'd speak to them and say you're not happy with one parent not having to follow the rules when everyone else does. Plus it breaches the safety issue behind the rule in the first place.

Notinmybackyard Wed 08-Jun-16 01:22:56

Ring Your local council, ask them to send traffic wardens out to the school at the appropriate time. Parking on a double yellow line outside a school is pretty dangerous. Wish the traffic wardens in my Borough were as keen to give tickets outside schools as they are to customers in Waitrose who've paid to park, then get back to their car 2 minutes late. The ticket machines are often broken, it can making shopping feel like Russian Roulette.

leopardgecko Wed 08-Jun-16 02:37:58

Although the man might just be an entitled twat, equally there could be a reason you do not know about. I am a foster carer and one child I am currently looking after has, due to her particular dangerous circumstances, has to be picked up from the car park that parents are not allowed to park in. I actually have to park on double yellow lines in the car park (with permission from the head teacher after advice from the police) to be near the door. I get looks, and often rude or nasty comments, especially when a teacher hands her over and then tells other parents they cannot park there. I do know how it looks, but we have to do it this way for the child's safety, and equally it would compromise her safety if we were to tell anyone why. So it's safer to be on the receiving end of other parent's abuse, which I do totally understand. I am just telling you this incase there is a reason why the man parks here, that he is not able to make other's aware of. Or like I say, he could just be a selfish twat,

leopardgecko Wed 08-Jun-16 02:43:14

I should add when teachers are approached by other parents about where I park, they would have to make some excuse or sympathise with them, pretend to be angry with me too, in order to keep the real reason I can park on double yellow lines secret. It is hard and does mean we, and the child, are pretty unpopular with other parents, but it's one of the things, as foster carers, that we have to do to keep the child safe.

Just5minswithDacre Wed 08-Jun-16 02:46:04

There might be a health or mobility reason that he can't walk far, so they've agreed to door 1 collection, but he's pushing the envelope and cutting the walking time even more by parking illegally (?)

Witchend Wed 08-Jun-16 06:52:16

Sounds much more like there's a very good reason if he's also picking up from a different door.

ladylambkin Wed 08-Jun-16 06:55:25

I agree. There will be a reason and you are unlikely to ever know what that reason is.

LadyStarkOfWinterfell Wed 08-Jun-16 06:57:08

Your waitrose traffic 'wardens' aren't the same ones who ticket on the street by the way.

Blu Wed 08-Jun-16 07:00:37

Blue Badge holders can stop / park on double yellow lines.

He has obviously made this arrangement with nursery, for whatever reason they have agreed with it, you have mentioned it, now just mind your own business.

venys Wed 08-Jun-16 07:06:48

My son also has a learning difficulty that means he has no awareness of road safety. I have 2 younger children and those with cognitive disabilities are not entitled
To a blue badge. When they are under 5 the local council will do everything they can to not provide transport to the setting. I almost had to home school my son because of the situation. It sucks and they would rather see these kids hit by a car than pay for it. Please bear in mind there is probably a valid reason. That said we had to get traffic control to come to our school because parents were parking in front of the gates me and the disability buses were supposed to use. It was mayhem and I was so upset by it as it rubs salt in the wound.

mrssmith79 Wed 08-Jun-16 07:18:52

Many, many moons ago when I was at school there was a pair of siblings that were never collected from the yard - they were delivered through a door by main reception on the other side of the building. They were collected by a foster carer as there were issues with birth family and potential abduction. Don't know the full details but in your case there may be a perfectly plausible explanation i.e. safeguarding. I'm sure they'll alter the risk assessment if you tell them how annoyed it makes you though hmm

mrssmith79 Wed 08-Jun-16 07:21:03

I see reading back to leopardgecko that this is more common than I thought.

wigglesrock Wed 08-Jun-16 07:22:21

Yup, I would assume that he has come to an arrangement with the nursery school because its in the childs interests/safety. I know a few parents who have permission to park in the bus lane at my kids primary. The reasons aren't shared with other parents & they get the same please do not park letters everyone does but they have permission. Some adults who pick up at the same time still yap about it.

He might be a dick but doesn't mean he doesn't have permission.

ExtraHotLatteToGo Wed 08-Jun-16 07:36:55

The nursery are not going to be doing a hand over like this simply because they don't want to challenge him. (They work with kids FGS - dealing with challenging behaviour is like water off a ducks back.). Of course they're going to have a damn good reason for it.

Telling the nursery he's aggressive because he gave you a mouthful because you weren't being careful near his car - because you were pissed off he was parked there. Well done. hmm

Just be sodding grateful you don't need to make special arrangements to do something as basic as picking your child up from nursery.

ShootingStar75 Wed 08-Jun-16 07:48:26

My dd's get dropped off and collected by me/dh via the school office doors due to my child's disability. Sometimes parents will come in to sort out something with the office staff, see us waiting and say to their children 'oh go wait over there until the bell goes, it saves us walking around to the other doors', unless it is literally seconds until the bell is due the office staff will tell them they aren't able to use these doors. Tbh I'd be quietly narked off with anyone who questioned my being there as its between me and the school, it's an adjustment that makes accessing school easier for my child and tbh I don't see why I should have to explain to people about her disability just to make them feel better about having to walk that bit further (I'd love nothing more than to be able to walk around to the other doors as it would mean my dd's disability wasn't impacting on her or my other dd as much as it does).

If he is collecting from another door I would assume it is an arrangement he has come to with the school that they are happy with, it's really not anyone else's business. The parking however-if it's onstreet parking (and he has no blue badge) can be dealt with by ringing your local council and asking for traffic warden to come around at drop off/pick up time.

venys Wed 08-Jun-16 08:18:32

As I said Shooting Star kids with cognitive disabilities are not entitled to blue badge in England (although it's ok in Wales).Many of us have to resort to "arrangements".

ExtraHotLatteToGo Wed 08-Jun-16 08:29:10

The 'yellow lines' I think are a bit of a red herring as they're on the pavement, not the road. Probably done by the nursery to discourage parents parking there rather than the actual, legally enforceable, yellow zig zags.

Not to mention that if they've had to make these special arrangements for a child through disability/medical condition/safety you'd have to be an enormous wanker to report them to the police just because it's not fair you can't do the same hmm

ShootingStar75 Wed 08-Jun-16 08:29:24

I'm well aware of that venys as my dd too does not qualify for a blue badge despite having no safety awareness, luckily for us when we're having a particularly bad day the school allow us to drive into their car park.
I was advising the op about a traffic warden as if he is parking on the street in a way which makes it difficult for people to get safely past on the pavement then irrespective of any arrangement he has made with the school he is parking in a way which is not allowed and school don't have the authority to over-ride the law in that respect.

Birdsgottafly Wed 08-Jun-16 08:41:22

I don't think the hand over, out of a different door is happening, because he parks closest to it.

The parking is a separate issue, but may be because he wants to get away from the school (perhaps were other relatives etc know they'll be, at X time), quickly.

The school are more than likely facilitating this, because this is the easiest way and has little risk of other children being around, if an incident happens.

littlemonkey5 Wed 08-Jun-16 09:05:33

My son has behavioural issues and I am allowed to park outside the school door so that the handover at the end of the day is smooth and easy as he is likely to do a runner if the distance to the car is too far.

YANBU about his attitude, he's not exactly helping himself, I would approach the school about that rather than the parking.

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