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To think it's unfair to blame the mother of child hurt by gorilla?

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pinkladyapple Mon 30-May-16 22:02:02

Yes if she was holding his hand maybe he wouldn't have ended up in the enclosure. But he could have gone over/through the fence in a split second. And the zoo should have fencing which makes this impossible, surely?

The parents aren't being prosecuted for negligence and yet the Internet seem angry at the mother.

But then the people who think that also seem to think a tranquilliser works instantly, and the gorilla wouldn't react to the pain or impact of the dart.

It's sad and terrible though. For everyone.

Thattimeofyearagain Mon 30-May-16 22:05:33

But she is at least partly to blame. Her child, her responsibility to look after him. The Zoo is also liable Imo.

Mavisblewitt Mon 30-May-16 22:07:25

Totally agree. that poor parent is more than likely feeling crap as it is, people slagging them off on the internet isn't going to help.

Tbh I'm pretty disgusted by some of the comments I've read!

The zoo holds ultimate responsibility to ensure enclosures are secure, and this should have factored significantly in their risk assessments.

Yes it's a shame that poor gorilla had to die but I feel the anger is being misdirected imho. I'm just relieved the headlines aren't also reporting on a dead child.

KingJoffreyLikesJaffaCakes Mon 30-May-16 22:07:27

Hundreds of children visit that zoo each day. If it was that easy to get in it would've happened before.

I feel like a bit of info is missing.

Not blaming anyone, but not convinced we ever get the full story.

KingJoffreyLikesJaffaCakes Mon 30-May-16 22:08:36

Seems awfully soon after the lion story too.

I feel something's afoot.

teablanket Mon 30-May-16 22:08:49

I'm sure I read that the parents may be facing charges..?

I think people are angry and sad because an innocent member of an endangered species was killed over something that shouldn't have happened.

Mavisblewitt Mon 30-May-16 22:09:00

Pressed post too soon, yes as parents we are responsible for our children so some accountability lies with the parents, but I stand by my previous comment about the unnecessary derogatory comments, they're not helpful.

BeYourselfUnlessUCanBeAUnicorn Mon 30-May-16 22:11:38

I agree OP. It's so easy for a child to slip out of sight briefly in a crowd. And anyone who says otherwise is deluded.

Today we went out, I sat on the bench facing the back of a large play area and slide. DD had been playing there for ages, went in again to go down the slide, didn't reappear despite me looking in that direction the whole time. I went looking for her and she had gone over to the play area next to the one she had been on.

The zoo should never ever have had a gap in a fence that a child could squeeze through. That is the only fault in this story.

AngieBolen Mon 30-May-16 22:12:08

If you are by a road you hold on to your child to stop them running in to the road.

If you are in a zoo, which is a visitor attraction you pay to go to, you presume your child will be safe. Of course you keep on eye on them to make sure they don't wander off, but you don't imagine they may be able to access an enclosure.

I think there is a lot of info missing, though.

Windsofwinter Mon 30-May-16 22:13:46

I live near a zoo, and have visited with my kids many times. The enclosures there are built with the aim of keeping the animals in. Lowish fences but a deep body of water between the lions and the fence, for example. The same is true of pretty much any animal attraction I've ever visited - even cows/horses could be dangerous if a child were to be in the enclosure. As parents we are fully responsible for teaching our children how to behave in such places.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 30-May-16 22:14:43

If you are by a road you hold on to your child to stop them running in to the road.

This^ I don't think I blame the parents - but I definitely don't blame the zoo. Enclosures are to keep animals in, not people out. If dangerous things have to be securely fenced off in case a child runs off we would need to have high fencing along every road, river etc in the country.

Chillyegg Mon 30-May-16 22:15:51

Your gonna get crazy people on the Internet saying horrible things all the time.
If I'm honest from what I've read I think a very large portion of the blame is with the parent.
Not only because of the danger of the animals but that was a 15 ft drop! It's the parent or guardians responsibility to make sure your child doesn't fling themselves into water in gorilla cages etc.
The zoo should for the animals safety and general publics safety have something that created a better barrier.

lem73 Mon 30-May-16 22:18:25

I wouldn't make nasty remarks about them but they are partly to blame. You keep a close eye on a four year old no matter where you are.

FuzzyWizard Mon 30-May-16 22:18:53

I agree OP.

limon Mon 30-May-16 22:18:55

When it comes to blame - always the mother, never the father. The parents. we're both at the scene. imho the enclosure should have been fit for purpose.

Mousedl1 Mon 30-May-16 22:18:57

I am annoyed that everyone is saying the mother is too blame and she should of been watching- ummmm the father was there too and is also equally responsible for that child. I find it really bad in this day and age that despite both parents being present everyone is flaming the mother rather than them both as equal parents capable of watching that boy.
Something is missing in this story though and let's be honest we have a second when we re scan for our children but there should never be a gap a child could get through to be in that situation.

neonrainbow Mon 30-May-16 22:19:55

The parent in charge of that kid was a negligent twat. Their negligence was directly responsible for what happened. Everyone else who has visited the zoo ever managed to not lose their child in the gorilla enclosure.

MrsTerryPratchett Mon 30-May-16 22:20:02

I've noticed a trend on my FB. The most vehement blaming 'the mother' seemed to be men who I know for a fact didn't spend much time on the ground parenting their own kids.

Coincidence? Probably. But I think people who haven't actually had to keep a small, headstrong person safe 24 hours a day are a little less understanding than they might be. DD would have been in that enclosure in about ten seconds.

gingerboy1912 Mon 30-May-16 22:20:41

The zoo should never ever have had a gap in a fence that a child could squeeze through. That is the only fault in this story.
^^ this*

makingmiracles Mon 30-May-16 22:22:10

It's all - But horses/cows/sheep etc are hardly comparable to a huge gorilla are they! What a ridiculous comparison!
In a zoo enclosures should be not only to keep the animals in, but the public out. The blame lies with the zoo on this occasion Imo.

Oliviaerinpope Mon 30-May-16 22:22:12

I agree OP.

honeyroar Mon 30-May-16 22:22:13

Yes of course you hold onto your child at a road in case it runs out in front of a car, but in a zoo you'd like to think that the child can only run up to the fence to see the animals. If the parent had thought for a moment that their child could get into the enclosure I doubt theyd have even gone to the zoo at all, let alone let go of their hand.

Thattimeofyearagain Mon 30-May-16 22:22:18

To clarify, I should have said parents, not mother.

KingJoffreyLikesJaffaCakes Mon 30-May-16 22:24:18

I still don't understand why he was shot.

The gorilla pulled the boy to safety and sat with him. He looked perfectly safe. Not in danger.

Couldn't a keeper who knew the gorilla just have gone and got him??

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 30-May-16 22:25:03

It's all - But horses/cows/sheep etc are hardly comparable to a huge gorilla are they! What a ridiculous comparison!

Cows in particular can be very dangerous, and I strongly suspect have been responsible for more deaths than gorillas....

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