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Justwhy7233 Fri 27-May-16 15:49:37

So DS is in year 7 at school they always have a school trip at end of year for those with 90% attendance. My son has under 90% attendance due to being in hospital for two months but other than that has been in for pretty much EVREY other day. We didnt think they'd let him go which we new he'd be upset with but one of his other friends also has under 90% attendance. We got an email saying they hadn't had his forms for trip. His friend did not get one of these emails. Sol we thought they were letting him go as they realised there was NO way he was going into school. We sent the forms in and got a letter back saying he couldn't go. During the week befor DS was getting really exited about going planning the day with friends. Now he's crying. I don't mind them saying he couldn't go. I do have a problem with getting his hopes up. AIBU to think they should let him go now?

getyourfingeroutyournose Fri 27-May-16 16:00:49

I would ring the school and ask to talk to the headteacher and explain that punishing him for being in hospital isn't fair. To send him an email expecting a reply has also got his hopes up. Explain all of the consequences of this and the fact that he has been through enough with being stuck in hospital.

civilfawlty Fri 27-May-16 16:11:49

Honestly, this policy drives me nuts. It is a complete pain to keep children at home particularly when one is working NOT a choice most parents willingly make. But, when they are ill, it is obviously the right thing to do, particularly when they are infectious, unless they want to whole school to come down with something. So we keep them home. In your case, your boy was in hospital. But the school then go on to punish the children for being ILL. It's completely perverse and badly thought through and I would argue counter productive.

Anyway - YANBU. Of COURSE your son should be allowed to go.

nosireebob Fri 27-May-16 16:16:18

I can't believe schools think they can inspire kids to become kind and thoughtful citizens by punishing ill health.

Also, in my view up to the teenage years it is rarely the children's fault if they don't attend when they should and punishing them just hits kids who often have other trouble at home too. And why are school trips treats rather than a learning experience of equal value? Sometimes I really despair

Justwhy7233 Fri 27-May-16 16:17:16

I know it's ridicoules! But I also don't want to make to much of a fuss as he's only in year 7 and I don't want to get on the wrong side of his Hoy. Iyswim and it's just making him more upset about his hospitial admission in October

PotteringAlong Fri 27-May-16 16:18:53

The trip is for those with 90% attendance. He doesn't have 90% attendance. He can't go.

Justwhy7233 Fri 27-May-16 16:21:29

I know pottering and I understand that! But it's getting his hopes up

Rhubardandcustard Fri 27-May-16 16:22:27

They should look at if he has 90% attendance excluding the days he had in hospital. Op I would bespeaking to the head teacher about this. I'm glad this doesn't happen at my dd school.

tiggytape Fri 27-May-16 16:23:10

If his hospital admission is related to a long term condition that would be classed as a disability or a known disability, I would especially dispute this.

Pottering and others may say he can't go because he hasn't achieved what they asked but they also have to be mindful of people who cannot reach the target no matter how hard they try because of a condition they have no control over. The same applies to bonuses and attendance in the workplace so it seems doubly harsh not to make allowances for children affected by this.

Creasedupcrinkle Fri 27-May-16 16:24:50

PotteringAlong, are you hard of thinking???biscuit

NicknameUsed Fri 27-May-16 16:26:12

"The trip is for those with 90% attendance. He doesn't have 90% attendance. He can't go"

So you would punish a child for being in hospital for two months Pottering?

Justwhy7233 Fri 27-May-16 16:26:37

He shoes have a long term condition and his hospitial admission was a secondary result of that iyswim

Egosumquisum Fri 27-May-16 16:27:20

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Creasedupcrinkle Fri 27-May-16 16:27:48

That's straightforward discrimination on the basis of disability.

clam Fri 27-May-16 16:28:15

I would be LIVID about this. It's pure discrimination against children with poor health. It's not their fault they've had the misfortune to be ill, and to make them "suffer" even more by missing out on something else, is mean-spirited and unkind.

whois Fri 27-May-16 16:30:19

I bleeding hate these stupid rewards for attendance. It's punish ill children and those with chaotic home loves.

Gileswithachainsaw Fri 27-May-16 16:32:29

So only healthy children go on school trips?

get run over on the way to school spend sone time recovering and you don't get to?

follow nhs guidelines on sickness and diorrhea and other contagious diseases/illnesses and you're screwed also?

Wtf kinda fucked up policy is that.

how bloody dare they angry

youarenotkiddingme Fri 27-May-16 16:32:43

Are you hard of thinking? grin <stores for future use!>

I don't think YABU. Not even that they got his hopes up but they are excluding children due to attendance related to disability.

Look up the equality act. They are putting him at a disadvantage to his peers because due to disability he couldn't be in school those 2 months. And actually, he should have been educated for the time he was in hospital by hospital school - so his attendence in education may not have been under 90%.

My DS has missed a session every week for past 2 months for a course he attended due to his disability. They classed him as educated off site.

TrickyD Fri 27-May-16 16:33:24

Pottering, the OP is not complaining about the policy of needing 90% attendance in order to go on the trip. She is annoyed, and her DS upset, because the school sent an email which, understandably, she took to mean that the DS could go, and then they withdrew the offer.

tiggytape Fri 27-May-16 16:35:03

I would be livid too.
If his hospital stay is related to a disability then a "reasonable adjustment" would be to calculate his attendance disregarding all absence that relates to his long-term condition (so the entire hospital stay).

This is the kind of allowances companies also have to make as well (example here where staff missed out on not-being-ill-bonuses).
It is not lawful that a person with a condition that meets the definition of a disability is disadvantaged because of their condition in any rewards system.

redskytonight Fri 27-May-16 16:39:25

I think this is a ridiculous policy and would definitely say that the school should not count illness/other good reason as part of their absence statistics in this case. Actually I'm strongly against "treats" of this nature in any case.

That said, I don't see how the school can let OP's DS go on the trip, unless they are prepared to also allow every other child with <90% attendance due to illness come as well. Which I imagine they can't do at this stage due to logistical reasons.

Justwhy7233 Fri 27-May-16 16:39:29

His attendance would be between 90-95% without hospitial admission

Egosumquisum Fri 27-May-16 16:39:47

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

EweAreHere Fri 27-May-16 16:43:00

This is outrageous. Of course he should be allowed to go if he has a good attendance record outside of his hospital stay.

I would complain in writing and demand a meeting with the Head, etc, and make it extremely uncomfortable for them.

HeteronormativeHaybales Fri 27-May-16 16:43:13

I'm abroad. I used to regret that my kids aren't getting a British education. I don't any more. Bonkers petty uniform policies, bonkers cruel discriminatory policies/'rewards' on attendance. I despair.

OP, your poor son. I'd be going to the head and, if no joy, to the governors/LA.

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