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To think school trip shouldn't be to a creationist zoo?

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SouperSal Fri 27-May-16 08:21:18

DH and I have issues about animal welfare and creationism.

Class at DD's (non-faith state school) had a trip to a creationist zoo this week and now DDs teacher wants to go. We're not best pleased.


MaidOfStars Fri 27-May-16 08:22:34

In the UK??

insancerre Fri 27-May-16 08:22:40

Whats a creationist zoo?

londonrach Fri 27-May-16 08:23:01

Whats a creastionist zoo? (Rushes off to google, i love mn i learn something new every day)

Brekekekex Fri 27-May-16 08:25:24

The one near Bristol? YADNBU!

Iambubbles86 Fri 27-May-16 08:26:07

Let me guess... Noah's ark zoo farm?? Surely there can't be more than one lol. Its actually really good there and there isn't any preaching, there is a reasonable amount of boards near the soft play area outlining their theories and beliefs but honestly you hardly notice, I wouldn't worry about it

curren Fri 27-May-16 08:27:15

It wouldn't bother me.

LouBlue1507 Fri 27-May-16 08:27:26

Just don't let your DD go? I don't see the problem! hmm

PippaPug Fri 27-May-16 08:27:28

Is that the Noah Ark one in Bristol? I have been there I can't remember it being that over the top but I went approx 3 years ago

Most that kind of thing goes over children's heads and they are just excited to go on a school trip with their friends

LunaLoveg00d Fri 27-May-16 08:27:52

The zoo bit wouldn't bother me. I used to love my trips to Edinburgh Zoo as a school child and learned a lot.

The creationist bit would, especially if they're presenting it as fact.

SouperSal Fri 27-May-16 08:28:49

Yes, the Noah's ark one. It's about an hour away. It's not so much about preaching, more that DH and I are uncomfortable about giving money/support to such an organisation.

If they went for an hour in the opposite direction they'd get to a lovely secular farm park with great facilities. Perhaps I'll suggest that as an alternative. (DD's teacher and I have a good relationship, hence she's raised this with me).

JazzAnnNonMouse Fri 27-May-16 08:28:55

Is it in Bristol by any chance?
I know lots of schools do a trip there and if it is noahs ark it is a good day out. The playing bits are fun and the animals are alright the talks are 😅😒:-S😂
And the written information is interesting too - is your dd old enough to be able to have a conversation with her about what some people believe and not others eg if they visited a religious building eg mosque church etc?
I think I would also have mixed views on it as a school trip. I wouldn't stop them from going but might write a letter to the head afterwards .

dementedpixie Fri 27-May-16 08:28:58

Didn't even know they existed but they do:

Addictedtocustardcreams Fri 27-May-16 08:29:30

Surely there aren't many of these so it must be the one just outside Bristol? I haven't been but it's near my parents. They have a religious belief & even they thought it was a bit over the top. However isn't all the creationist stuff inside a special creationist barn? I don't think visitors all go in that you know what the other school trip did/saw?

FranHastings Fri 27-May-16 08:29:30

YADNBU if it's Noah's Ark Zoo farm.

SouperSal Fri 27-May-16 08:29:54

Just don't let your DD go? I don't see the problem

Yes, because DD wouldn't think anything of being the only child at school while the others were at the zoo. hmm

LouBlue1507 Fri 27-May-16 08:30:16

Stop trying to control the school based on your beliefs! Bloody hell, if you don't like it just keep DD off for the day!

RafaIsTheKingOfClay Fri 27-May-16 08:30:23


Schools should not be doing trips to this zoo. I'm sure there are plenty of other places to visit that would be able to cover the areas of the NC that would be met by this visit.

luckiestgirl Fri 27-May-16 08:30:23

Would you have a problem with her visiting a Church? Or a Mosque? Or a Gurdwara?

OreosOreosOreos Fri 27-May-16 08:30:32

If it's the Noah's ark one I would t have a problem - we took DSS there last year for his birthday for a zoo keepers experience - it was brilliant and much less expensive than anywhere else!

There are some small signs up
in places, but if you didn't stop to read them you wouldn't even know.

We had an interesting discussion on the way home about people believing different things.

LouBlue1507 Fri 27-May-16 08:31:05

So the whole school trip should be arranged around your beliefs and DDs feelings? Get a grip!

NaiceVillageOfTheDammed Fri 27-May-16 08:34:02

I'd be pulling my DS out from the trip.

If it's Noah's Ark, they've had animal welfare issues (a few years ago) on top of the creationism agenda.

This is not an appropriate school trip.

SouperSal Fri 27-May-16 08:34:05

And the written information is interesting too - is your dd old enough to be able to have a conversation with her about what some people believe and not others eg if they visited a religious building eg mosque church etc?

Absolutely. We do have that kind of discussion and always have. (She's 5.) want her to know and appreciate all belief systems and make her own choice. Don't want this "God made all the animals, evolution is false" crap presented as fact.

SouperSal Fri 27-May-16 08:35:09

Would you have a problem with her visiting a Church

Not at all. Their theme this term has been animals. Teacher wants them to see animals. This can be done in many many places that don't have this agenda.

londonrach Fri 27-May-16 08:36:09

Wow, impressed if their animal welfare is better than other zoos. Your dd will enjoy the experience. Sounds like you can avoid the religious bit.

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