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Is 14 too young

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kitkat1968 Sun 22-May-16 23:23:30

to be studying 'The History Boys' . I know the film has an 'R' rating in USA.
Just canvassing opinion

MrHannahSnell Sun 22-May-16 23:32:49

Lord no. I think the US rating is an over reaction. I'd say it was OK from about 12 up.

PaulAnkaTheDog Sun 22-May-16 23:35:01

You know it was originally a play? No issue with it for 14 year olds.

WonkoTheSane42 Sun 22-May-16 23:35:32

The film is a 15 rating, so if you mean studying the film at school, then yes, 14 is too young and it shouldn't be taught to 14 year olds. If it's the play and they're reading it, there are no rules about that.

Myusernameismyusername Sun 22-May-16 23:38:41

No I would be ok with the play. Probably the film too to be honest. I don't generally tend to let DD13 watch 15's though yet but that's usually because of violence which she hates. I am having trouble with keeping her away from sexual references and such like, it's everywhere! She cringes usually

WorraLiberty Sun 22-May-16 23:42:06

The film is a 15 rating, so if you mean studying the film at school, then yes, 14 is too young and it shouldn't be taught to 14 year olds.

But every school year that contains 14 year olds, will also contain 15 year olds and kids who are just a few weeks/months away from 15.

I think a lot of ratings are OTT anyway, but parents always have the right to refuse permission for their kids to watch things.

pieceofpurplesky Sun 22-May-16 23:44:29

The play doesn't have a rating. The film does.
It's on the new syllabus.

AtiaoftheJulii Sun 22-May-16 23:47:02

Well, no, it might be a y9 (equivalent) class with 13 and 14 year olds.

I find it a bit weird how it seems to be ok in school to watch any rating film. Not that I think there's any problem with The History Boys, tbh, fantastic play/film.

WonkoTheSane42 Sun 22-May-16 23:50:03

Yes Worra, but as a teacher it's your responsibility to make sure everyone in your class is old enough to see the film you want to study. For me (I'm in Scotland) that means no 15 rated films until after the January of S4 at least.

Parents choosing a higher age film for their own kids in private is one thing; it's different in a school. You really can't muck about with the ages on media, as you'd have no defence if there was a complaint. Potentially could lead to being struck off (it was one of several things used in a case against a pretty awful guy that did supply in our school.)

TooOldForGlitter Sun 22-May-16 23:53:42

I just got the scones and piled a shit load of chilli jam on.

TooOldForGlitter Sun 22-May-16 23:55:03

Or, <cringe> wrong thread. As you were...

MadamDeathstare Mon 23-May-16 00:01:17

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TooOldForGlitter Mon 23-May-16 00:05:20

Madam the worst thing is that I vividly recall misposting a very similar thing, albeit including genuine cheese scones, on a very serious dog thread about 2 years ago. Clearly I haven't learned.

KindDogsTail Mon 23-May-16 00:07:12

Quite recently there was MN thread about what young teenagers/children often about 11 see on the internet at school in the way of porn, how very widespread it is and how parents do not realise the extent of it.

It is extremely worrying. If this is really true, is it realistic to worry about ratings for plays and films which will have nothing on what is being seen elsewhere?

I believe in ratings too, but couldn't help wondering if they aren't just a powerless protection now.

Iknownuffink Mon 23-May-16 00:08:10

One of my kids reviewed an Irvine Welsh book for a school assignment. The teacher got shirty about it.

My response was, it was contemporary literature and I had given my permission for the assignment.

Italiangreyhound Mon 23-May-16 00:11:22

Yes, it is a 15 and should be studied by children aged 15 plus. It is very funny but I think ear olds would understand it better than 14 years older.

Plus when you say 14 which school year do you mean? Year 9 or Year 10.

1805 Mon 23-May-16 00:15:19

no its fine. My ds did a kind of shortened version of the play in Y9.(first term so many boys still were 13 I imagine.)

Italiangreyhound Mon 23-May-16 00:16:50

KindDogsTail just because some young kids are watching porn at 11 doesn't mean teachers can throw out the system for films.

Maybe this was the article and I know for a fact some kids of 11 have seen porn but still the school recommends to read or watch is different

Italiangreyhound Mon 23-May-16 00:17:46

but still what the ...

HeartsofOak Mon 23-May-16 00:18:06

Surely the History Boys is a story about child abuse?

Not appropriate imho for any child. Particularly as the film at least seems to be very dismissive of the abuse it portrays. I was quite shocked.

IamtheDevilsAvocado Mon 23-May-16 00:23:31

It's a totally brilliant play!!

Leaving aside the certificate... I would be happy for a 12/13 year old to see it at home, as long as we were having convos about the the issues it portrays?

Esp the normalisation of the dodgy teacher's sexual abuse of the boys.

KindDogsTail Mon 23-May-16 00:26:21

Of course I realise that, and I would not want teachers to start ignoring ratings for films. On the contrary, at least it means someone in authority is seen to be doing what they can to keep boundaries for the students with age appropriate material.

I was wondering though, if there is a false sense of security. These film ratings are taken seriously, while access to very inappropriate porn films is going unstopped and is not discussed with the children enough.

Any way, I was thinking out loud as I have wondered about this sad irony before. Sorry, I apologise. I do not want to disrupt the discussion about the play in question.

Myusernameismyusername Mon 23-May-16 00:31:28


While I agree that children should not be exposed to certain things I have been unable to keep the news from my DD13 or things kids say at school and she already knows about child abuse and we have had many convos. I don't think this film would be too traumatising for her to see or the play to read
I would like to hope that she would be able to discuss it with me so it isn't still treated like a 'dirty secret' and why it is so wrong

pieceofpurplesky Mon 23-May-16 07:29:55

Again. It's the play not the film that is being studied. No ratings on books.

araiba Mon 23-May-16 07:32:55

burn the books

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