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to think Roald Dahl's 'Revolting Rhymes' should be banned?

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SquareholeRoundpeg Thu 05-May-16 21:13:30

I know Dahl is a national treasure and children love a bit of gore and all that - but DH and I were shocked at some of the language used in some of the stories (it is not easy to shock DH!)

There is a line in the Cinderella story where the prince says of Cinderella, 'who is this dirty slut'. Had to pause on that part when reading to DS!

The language in the story shows how deeply engrained misogynistic attitudes are, and continue to be carried through in our children's literature.

How can this be allowed?!!!

FutureGadgetsLab Thu 05-May-16 21:15:08

You're being unreasonable to think it should be banned but you're bot unreasonable to think it's crap and misogynistic.

allegretto Thu 05-May-16 21:15:18

Slut used to just mean slovenly rather than sexual.

Atenco Thu 05-May-16 21:15:38

You've gotta be kidding!

HippyPottyMouth Thu 05-May-16 21:15:42

The traditional meaning of 'slut' is like 'slattern,' dirty with dirt rather than sexually dirty.

BeckyWithTheMediocreHair Thu 05-May-16 21:16:10

Banned? Seriously? By whom?

Dahl is using 'slut' in its original meaning of slovenly, FWIW.

allegretto Thu 05-May-16 21:16:16

In any case - I wouldn't ban it. Even if you disagree with it, why ban?

TipBoov Thu 05-May-16 21:16:38

It used to have a different meaning (I.e someone with low standards of cleanliness!) but these days obviously it has a much worse meaning.

Not something I'd want to read to my DS at the moment, but I don't think banning a classic is the answer.

SquareholeRoundpeg Thu 05-May-16 21:16:54

Slut in today's context means something quite different!

SecretSpy Thu 05-May-16 21:16:59

I choose to interpret that as slut being used as slattern. And YABU I love Revolting Rhymes and Dirty Beasts

Oysterbabe Thu 05-May-16 21:17:15

As above re slut definition. Yabu.

albertcampionscat Thu 05-May-16 21:17:18

Reverse thread, surely?

TurnOffTheTv Thu 05-May-16 21:17:54

How can this be allowed?!!!
Good lord get over yourself.

SavoyCabbage Thu 05-May-16 21:18:45

I don't really like RD but I do like the revolting rhymes. Slut used to mean a poor housekeeper.

Most fairy tale stuff is pretty sexist generally.

JonSnowsBeardClippings Thu 05-May-16 21:18:47

Banning books? Don't be a twat

MeepyMupp Thu 05-May-16 21:19:03

confused

trickleupeffect Thu 05-May-16 21:19:38

Another person to say probably using slut to mean slovenly. Absolutely love Roald Dahl, love his irreverence, by all means don't read him with your DC if it's not you cup of tea, but banning is ridiculous. Especially on grounds of misogyny. Matilda? Sophie from BFG? Little Red Riding Hood? Great girl protagonists. YABU

tinofbeans Thu 05-May-16 21:19:41

Have you tried reading Beatrix Potter recently? The violence is shocking!

BerylStreep Thu 05-May-16 21:19:52

They used this line at my DS's drama group in school, even after I had raised my objections to the (external) drama teacher. The Head wasn't as blasé about it when I complained to her. The drama teacher no longer works there.

Whether the phrase 'you dirty slut' is used in the older meaning of the word, it is still a denigrating term towards women.

I can't see how Dahl could be banned, or even that it would be a good thing to do, but if using his materials in school then it should be judiciously edited.

Dvallin Thu 05-May-16 21:19:59

Hmm, censorship or education, which to choooose? hmm

How hard is it to explain the meaning of the word to your special snowflake?

TheSuspiciousMsWhicher Thu 05-May-16 21:20:17

Well, in the context it means 'slattern'.

However, when Yr 6 did the play at DDs school, I know they changed the line so the meaning was the same but the word 'slut' was omitted.

Banning it is a ridiculous suggestion, though.

BeckyWithTheMediocreHair Thu 05-May-16 21:20:22

Of Mice and Men and To Kill A Mockingbird make pretty free with the 'n' word. Shall we ban them, too?

Tell you what, OP. Get the fires going and we'll burn the lot. That always goes well.

HazelBite Thu 05-May-16 21:20:37

This is Dh's favourite book he could not read it for laughing. YABVU Its pure genius

Jellybeam Thu 05-May-16 21:20:53

Should ban some Enid Blyton instead

SquareholeRoundpeg Thu 05-May-16 21:21:55

Ok ban a little harsh - how about edit the word 'slut'.

'Of Mice and Men' and 'To Kill a Mockingbird' for slightly older audiences, no?

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