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To think fathers have just as much right as mothers

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NeedACleverNN Sat 30-Apr-16 21:05:32

I don't mean abusive fathers and absent fathers but a father involved in their children's lives.

Just seen the p and g advert with their proud sponsor of mums and indicates that mums are the reason their children succeeds.

Dh just pointed out that actually fathers can be a big help their too.

Shouldn't p and g say "proud sponsor of parents" and no just mums

FuzzyOwl Sat 30-Apr-16 21:06:39

Yes, completely agree. Especially since sometimes a single parent is a father and the mother is not around.

MrsTerryPratchett Sat 30-Apr-16 21:07:37

I'm sure they've done their marketing and worked out that the vast majority of their income is coming from mothers. It's sexist bollocks though.

Muskateersmummy Sat 30-Apr-16 21:09:01

I agree too. I think it often.

Osolea Sat 30-Apr-16 21:09:54

Unfortunately fathers don't have the same rights or status as parents, but they really should have. My ex and I have been separated since our teenagers were toddlers, he's been a fantastic and involved father, and a lovely, supportive co parent.

MarthaCliffYouCunt Sat 30-Apr-16 21:11:18

confused what does that have to do with parental rights? (its responsibilities if we're being pedantic)

BonitaFangita Sat 30-Apr-16 21:12:53

Me too I know lots of involved and loving fathers and stepfathers. Including DH who have great relationships with their kids

NeedACleverNN Sat 30-Apr-16 21:13:02

I couldn't think of the right word grin

Distracted by bgt

BillSykesDog Sat 30-Apr-16 21:14:20

It annoys me because you can't sponsor 'Mums' anyway. Just patronising meaningless bloody nonsense.

MrsTerryPratchett Sat 30-Apr-16 21:14:39

Oh and just so people don't feel too sorry for the men, I believe that the higher status of women as carers adversely affects women more than men. Expected to do and even enjoy unpaid domestic jobs, hired and paid less because they are mothers, taking career breaks, terrible pensions...

Cabrinha Sat 30-Apr-16 21:15:31

Right, it's an ADVERT not a government initiative.

Women make the majority of small value domestic grocery purchase decisions regardless of who earns the money.

P&G sell a lot small value domestic products.

There is a large subset of women (not too bright ones IMO) who actually buy into and identify with nauseous shite like this.

P&G are a big successful marketing machine. This shite sells. Go proud mummies!

YABU to not realise this.
YABU to think that it actually translates as meaning that fathers don't have "rights".

You know that P&G don't set the legislation on that, right? 😂

Donatellalymanmoss Sat 30-Apr-16 21:16:07

I don't really like the use of rights when it comes to children, it would be much more accurate to talk in terms of responsibilities.

MarthaCliffYouCunt Sat 30-Apr-16 21:16:24

If it makes you feel better OP, it will be mainly men (probably many fathers) profitting from the sales of P&G products as a result of their bulshit ads.

MarthaCliffYouCunt Sat 30-Apr-16 21:16:54

And probably men who created and put together the ad too.

AndTakeYourPenguinWithYou Sat 30-Apr-16 21:16:54

When I see as many men as women giving up their jobs or going part time, and doing all the shit work that goes with having kids, I might agree.
Until then, no.

throwingpebbles Sat 30-Apr-16 21:18:23

The focus should be on childrens rights. Parents have responsibilities.

idontlikealdi Sat 30-Apr-16 21:29:07

That advert really wound me up. I can't really express why but I think because it implied as a mum you need a bloody Venus razor to be a good one.

Cabrinha Sat 30-Apr-16 22:08:10

You can't blame P&G and the advert though - you have to blame the dimwit mummies who actually fall for that shite.
You just know they all love the phrase "hardest job in the world" too 😂

Toddzoid Sat 30-Apr-16 22:14:22

I'm not so sure. Probably just projecting my own experiences here but when parents split that I know of the dad has the children either once a week or even EOW so the mother does the lions share. Also I have only met a handful of people in my life that actually like their father or even had any remote relationship with him. Almost everyone I was friends with in school either didn't know their dad or their dad was abusive in some way. There are of course fantastic father's out there and indeed a few single dad's but by and large it's down to the mothers.

sunnyoutside Sun 01-May-16 08:54:21

On the other side of the coin why should a father, who chooses to only see his son twice a month - no contact in between - shows no interest in his life, be allowed to have a say in what school ds attends, the school that has an impact on me, my ds, my other dc yet has no impact on him because he lives too far away and won't move away from his mummy who cooks for him every night. Yes I sound bitter (I am working on it, promise) but no I don't think he should have as many rights as me to decide things re ds, because he chooses not to be around to see the results of his choices but still likes to be able to tell his family and friends how involved he is and that is why he is disruptive when it comes to our ds.

Rant over blush

Hissy Sun 01-May-16 10:38:16

The reason I am who I am is IN SPITE OF MY MOTHER, who would delight in my misery and kick me when I was down because she enjoyed it, so the hearts and flowers crap is way off beam with me.

Hate that kind of emotional bs spewed out in the name of advertising.

This is 2016, life isn't 2.4 kids and a mum and dad for the majority of households.

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