To put my children on the census form on Sunday, even though none of them are here [sob]

(35 Posts)
Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 21:32:33

I don't want the census to record that they've left home because they haven't, and they probably never will the way the fecking housing/job market is going in Ireland angry

It's just coincidental they are away on Sunday night. So I want to put them down as being here, because they are all fecking well here every other fecking night.

[grumpy]

[fecking grumpy, acksherly]

GretchenBeckett Fri 22-Apr-16 21:35:16

There's a census?

Yanbu btw

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 21:36:54

Yes, there is in Ireland Gretchen.

iirc, ds1 was away for the last census too.

It bugs me. I want a "they are usually here but are out of the house for one night" box.

diddl Fri 22-Apr-16 21:38:23

Won't they be recorded where they are iyswim?

Or doesn't it say to put down people who usually reside there?

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 21:40:57

I'm assuming ds2 will be recorded as being with the school, because they have lots of kids that night.

dd is in a student house for a few weeks work placement - she says there is no sign of a census form in the house.

And ds1 is away on holidays in Spain.

So it looks like two of the three won't be recorded at all. The form says I can only put down people who are physically here.

I know IABU but I still want to put them down

diddl Fri 22-Apr-16 21:45:50

That's pretty crap really, isn't it.

Also explains why if you're trying to look uo ancestors they can be hard to find!

You'd think that you could put them down & where they actually are.

That would be interesting!

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 21:47:28

Yes, a box saying "normally resident" and "absent due to holiday/work/training/ being out on the piss /whatever" would be good grin

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 21:48:52

In fact I'm sure my descendents would be much more interested to find out that ds is on holidays in Spain and that dd is on a training week down the country rather than just having them absent, and then reappear as young adults seemingly having returned to live at home in 5 years' time.

I'm getting crosser here first world problem

angelikacpickles Fri 22-Apr-16 21:52:39

There is a part to fill in people who normally live in the house but are absent - list 2.

bakeoffcake Fri 22-Apr-16 21:53:32

Yanbu.

I would want to put them down too.

The whole point of it is to count the population so they should be recorded.

switswoo81 Fri 22-Apr-16 21:54:32

YANBU, think there could be a few more boxes for certain circumstances
. My mum is staying with me due to my surgery so in 100 years there is going to be major confusion!

diddl Fri 22-Apr-16 21:55:23

"The census in Ireland is carried out by the Central Statistics Office. The census is taken every five years, with more detailed information collected in years ending in 1 and less in the years ending in 6."

From Wiki.

Interesting!

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 22:01:22

Is there angel? I filled in a lot of the day-to-day information this evening (hence me thinking about it) but didn't notice that.

I didn't know they were different for years ending in 1 and 6 - I wonder what they collected in 2011 that they aren't bothering with this time. I hope it's the ridiculous question about "do you speak fluent Irish" - to which half the population answers "Yes" even though their Irish extends to "Is maith liom dul go dtí an leithreas" grin

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 22:01:49

And how the fuck is this thread in "Trending".

Trending is fucked.

diddl Fri 22-Apr-16 22:05:14

I've just looked at a form onlineblush & bloody hell, if this a year for less information!

Type of water, type of sewerage...

I thought that a census was names, ages, ocupations!

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 22:14:20

Ours seems to be trying to work out what type of a house we live in more than anything else.

I'm not meant to fill it in until Sunday, but it's bloody long.

At least they have me as head of house this year - in the past I had real issues because dh had to come first [grumpy]

Kidnapped Fri 22-Apr-16 22:18:41

FIL told me I had filled in the census wrongly since I had put myself as Person 1.

He was convinced that you need a penis to occupy person 1 status.

Don't fill in the water question Maryz

They changed the Irish question to include do you only speak it as school,outside etc?

One of the parents in my ds scholarship is an enumerator. She is getting a fair chunk of change for it but apparently loads if people are boycotting this year.

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 22:25:14

Can you boycott?

I thought it was one of those things that you had to do, and they would follow you around until it was done.

Kidnapped, I think you used to have to have a penis grin

Apparently you can be fined and imprisoned for not filling it under the Census act but I've read a large contingent of the boycotters are sending it back unsigned because this year the water question is included and the census is being given sent to a private company in England to be assessed instead of staying in Ireland- worried about who gets their data I suppose.

Mind you I don't know what they could do with the data, I've 2 kids, speak irish occasionally and I don't pay for water. That's hardly going to get my identity stolen!

potoftea Fri 22-Apr-16 22:33:54

Saw this thread title and worried for a second that I'd posted it without knowing! Am also wanting to include my 3 adult DC in family cencus although 2 of them live in shared houses elsewhere, so I'll only include the one student who'll be back home shortly.
I would definitely include someone who's only away on holiday even though its against the rules. I think as the info is used for planning the needs of the area in coming years it makes sense.
Last census I filled ours in so put myself down as head of the household, dh didn't mind but friends were surprised!

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 22:35:29

We have (stupidly) paid for water, but won't be paying any more.

But I don't see why answering the water question identifies anyone [baffled]. I agree, in principle, with censuses (censii?) so I will obviously fill it in as best I can.

I know someone who collected them once - she said it was an easy and well-paid job, apart from on e house that she apparently visited seven times before they gave her anything, and even then she and they knew it was a pack of lies - she said it was full of builders (she thought about 20 or so in a three bed house), of loads of different nationalities, and she reckoned in the end the landlord had filled it in as Person 1 and made up a few others.

I'm not sure what she should have done, but she let it go at that stage.

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 22:40:03

You know I might put ds down.

He's currently unemployed (no fault of his, the company went into liquidation) and has SN, so he should be counted angry.

I'm still fuming over the reallocation of the mh budget, ffs <off-topic>

We need an Irish I Want a Rant topic on here.

Maryz Fri 22-Apr-16 22:41:43

And I've just checked the online form and there is a place for people who are temporarily absent blush

So I'm being very, very unreasonable. Sorry.

<re-reads form>

DramaAlpaca Fri 22-Apr-16 22:45:15

I haven't even looked at the stupid form yet.

But yes, I want to put DS2 down even though he lives away from home. I must actually text or call him to remind him that he & his house mates have to fill it in.

We haven't paid our water bill yet. DH is being stubborn about it.

As for the head of the household, I'm going to fill the bloody form in, so I'll be putting myself down first.

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