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AIBU to wonder what Brighton council are playing at asking 3 and 4 year olds their gender?

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SwearyKnickers Wed 20-Apr-16 21:44:21

Ds 4 identifies as a sausage. Although he sometimes goes by squish and cuddlemonkey. He hasn't sorted his pronouns yet. We better get on with it.. he's starting school in Sept...

Hygellig Wed 20-Apr-16 21:59:26

It seems mad to me at such a young age...DD identifies as a pony most of the time.

Atenco Wed 20-Apr-16 22:03:14

I suppose the girls have to describes themselves as "non-boys", as per the latest policy of the Green Party. I'm so disappointed in that party, I expected better of it.

SaucyJack Wed 20-Apr-16 22:05:43

I'm sure your son doesn't actually identify as a sausage hmm

What is the harm in trying to identify the tiny, tiny percentage of children who are already experiencing gender dysphoria at a young age?

Is it going to harm anybody's cis kid? Is it fuck.

PaulAnkaTheDog Wed 20-Apr-16 22:09:25

Tbh Jack half the stuff kids say at that age is utter shit. Putting in the fact that they can also be deliberately difficult and just give awkward answers I would honestly question whether there is anything at all to be gained from it.

RiverTam Wed 20-Apr-16 22:10:32

Children are not cis or trans just like the rest of the world isn't split into cis or trans. Children are children, who should be allowed the play with whatever they fancy, like whatever colours they like and wear whatever they like. Any doctrine that reinforces sexist outdated gender stereotypes should be dumped in the trash where it belongs.

This is coming from adults with an agenda.

Tessticklesyourfancy Wed 20-Apr-16 22:11:34

I don't understand it but then I don't understand the combustion engine either but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Wed 20-Apr-16 22:12:47


99.9% tick make or female.

00.1% have the need to tick the other box.

blearynweary Wed 20-Apr-16 22:16:00

I think it's cruel and totally weird.

MrBensMrs Wed 20-Apr-16 22:16:53

I think it's nonesense!

Justanotherlurker Wed 20-Apr-16 22:17:51

It's Brighton, no need for another explanation really <joke>

If they don't get this then they get to whine on tumblr and gawker, still it's not committing them to some hormone treatment so I'm a bit meh..

SaucyJack Wed 20-Apr-16 22:17:52

OK- I'm a bit biased because I know a trans child.

It's definitely not the child chatting shit. and the child's mother most definitely has better things to do with her child than reinforce the gender agenda.

If you've never met a child with genuine gender dysphoria then it probably does seem like PC gorn mad. But these childre are out there, and they should have provison made for them like any other kid with any other SNs.

SeptemberFlowers Wed 20-Apr-16 22:17:54

This is absolutely bloody bonkers angry

What a waste of money !!

BiscuitMillionaire Wed 20-Apr-16 22:19:06


quel surprise

blearynweary Wed 20-Apr-16 22:20:25

It's not even 'right on'

It's a horrible controlling agenda

I hate the Green Party

Sootica Wed 20-Apr-16 22:20:41

Absolutely ridiculous and I have a just 6 yr old who has dressed as a boy for a year. She is a girl. Wants to be a boy because she doesn't like looking pretty in dresses. Not old enough to realise that's a society imposed stereotype. She can make her own mind up when she's older but til then I think I'll just keep off the Internet and not move to Brighton

SwearyKnickers Wed 20-Apr-16 22:20:49

What is the harm in trying to identify the tiny, tiny percentage of children who are already experiencing gender dysphoria at a young age?

I know of at least two children who identified as the other "gender". Both mine.. it's what kids do. They don't know they can't change sex, they get confused by other peoples ideas of gender.

Once they're on that path and being seen as "trans" how do they suddenly say, ah no sorry I'm really a girl?

BiscuitMillionaire Wed 20-Apr-16 22:21:48

I'm sure there are children with genuine gender dysphoria, and they should be supported, but that doesn't mean there has to be an instruction to all parents. In a sensible world, the parent(s) of that child would speak to the school, as you would with any other issue.

StepAwayFromTheThesaurus Wed 20-Apr-16 22:24:34

Not even 0.01% have a need to tick another box. None of them do.

3 and 4 year olds do not have gender dysphoria, what they have is parents who find boys who like wearing dresses or girls who prefer building blocks to dolls difficult to squeeze into their stereotypical categories. The parents who are all liberal and 'right on' and start talking about their trans toddler and thinking about 'transition' are actually the worst case response to that.

MrBensMrs Wed 20-Apr-16 22:26:44

I hope that children with diagnosed gender issues have more than one box ticked or unticked on a form to highlight this to their new school.

Kiddiewinks2008 Wed 20-Apr-16 22:27:31

For the record, we dont have a green council anymore in Brighton- its labour. But yes, its bonkers, have just filled in said form for my 4 year old.

BombadierFritz Wed 20-Apr-16 22:27:46

It must be very hard to explain to a small child
1 girls and boys can wear what they want and play with any toys and grow up to do any job
2 some girls are really boys because they like wearing trousers, playing with trucks and blue, and some boys are really girls because they like pink and princesses

LarryStylison Wed 20-Apr-16 22:27:59

I think this is going to just confuse them even more!

MrBensMrs Wed 20-Apr-16 22:29:59

It will be ethnicity next - does your child identify as an insert any other ethnic group here

blearynweary Wed 20-Apr-16 22:30:20

I'd be tempted to tick the 'third box' then just not mention anything and send my dd to school without any more discussion just to see what the school did

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