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Aibu to not give a rats about the rats

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Catvsworld Tue 12-Apr-16 20:29:56

I was listing to the radio today and the topic was the state of wormwood scrubs

They talk about conditions being dekensian rats as big as you like and having to go loo in your room

Well my initial thoughts are you don't have to rape, kill or mame one would imagine if you wanted to poo in private you would have opted not commit offensives the conditions are that bad a yet back they go so in my view the conditions can not be terrible

For me the reasons I don't comment crimes partly because I don't want to brake the law but partly because I don't want to be strip searched made to squat , poo in front of others and have rats nibbling at my toes

It's nit nice to have to live like that but to be honest one would imagine it's not grate to love with the after math of rape , or the killing of a loved one witch will last a lot longer than any sentence also there are lot of people living in the U.K. Who have not committed crimes who live in squalid conditions due to no fault of there own rouge landlords and poor councils ect they should be first in line not some scrout who's killed some old lady

notquiteruralbliss Tue 12-Apr-16 20:35:18

I'm rather disappointed. Had hoped that this was a post about the gorgeousness of rats ( and their twitchy little noses) not someone spewing bile.

acasualobserver Tue 12-Apr-16 20:36:16

Would you also bring back the treadmill? Picking oakum?

Ginslinger Tue 12-Apr-16 20:39:48

do you mean Dickensian?

Ginslinger Tue 12-Apr-16 20:40:41

I think I might list to the radio, it could be fun

RainIsAGoodThing Tue 12-Apr-16 20:41:23

How vile. You, not the rats.

flossietoot Tue 12-Apr-16 20:47:19

What a simplistic way to look at crime. What do you think the point of prison is?? Do you think that by removing every ounce of self esteem an already vulnerable person has, they will be reformed and leave prison to lead a successful life and not go on to reoffend? Do you think that everyone in prison is a murderer and rapist?

KeemaNaanAndCurryOn Tue 12-Apr-16 20:49:33

I think that a decent society should be able to grasp that keeping anyone, criminal or not, in rat infested accommodation isn't a good thing.

bolleauxnouveau Tue 12-Apr-16 20:50:41

Trying to picture a rouge landlord.

LaurieFairyCake Tue 12-Apr-16 20:55:42

You can tell how civilised a society is by how it treats its prisoners

You OP are not civilised.

formerbabe Tue 12-Apr-16 21:09:06

Well my initial thoughts are you don't have to rape, kill or mame

Can you only go to prison if you rape or murder someone then? You do know op that there's a whole host of crimes that you can be given a custodial sentence for?

Count yourself lucky that poor spelling and grammatical errors are not crimes op.

Crabbitface Tue 12-Apr-16 21:12:06

Even if you forget all about the human rights and ethical stuff (which you clearly don't subscribe to) it costs us more, both financially and socially, to treat prisoners badly. They leave prison with higher rates of mental illness, physical illness, addictions, re-offending and unemployment. YABVU.

leelu66 Tue 12-Apr-16 21:13:50

there own rouge landlords

I had a mental image of middle aged men with rouged cheeks

amarmai Tue 12-Apr-16 21:14:52

mn at its lowest-picking on spelling and grammar and ignoring the opinion set out.If you do not agree with op's pov, explain why . IMO op has a point. There are many struggling people who have not broken the law and hurt other people who need help desperately.

ilovesooty Tue 12-Apr-16 21:26:35

What Crabbitface said.

With posters like this I wonder if they're so dense in real life.

TheRollingCrone Tue 12-Apr-16 21:32:38

Rat Troll?

runningincircles12 Tue 12-Apr-16 21:41:07

What's 'dekensian'? Seriously, if someone put you on the spot and asked you what it meant, what would your answer be?
Also, Wormwood Scrubs is a Cat B prison, so they won't all have raped, killed or maimed to be in there.

WonderingAspie Tue 12-Apr-16 21:45:23

There are a lot of 'first time posters' posting tonight who have spelling problems.

Go to school and learn your spellings.

ilovesooty Tue 12-Apr-16 21:47:37

This one isn't a first time poster. We're treated to her ponderings on a regular basis.

runningincircles12 Tue 12-Apr-16 21:48:30

amarmai, it might not be kind to pick on spelling and grammar, but where you have a clearly ignorant opinion (ie assuming that all the prisoners there are murderers and rapists) and it's also littered with spelling errors, it's hard to resist. It's like when you get those posts saying 'if immigrant's can't speak fucking English, they should go back to there own country' and you think hmm....
Also, returning to the actual opinion, ironically, in countries where prisoners are treated like human beings and where rehabilitation is actually a priority, re-offending rates are considerably lower than in this country. If you treat someone like scum, they will behave like scum.

flossietoot Tue 12-Apr-16 21:53:57

I don't think pointing out spelling errors is particularly helpful. It is demeaning and arrogant. Someone doesn't know what they don't know.

Thisisnotausername Tue 12-Apr-16 21:55:26

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ilovesooty Tue 12-Apr-16 21:57:23

I'm wondering how many prisons the OP has ever visited.

novemberchild Tue 12-Apr-16 22:01:43

I'm picturing Quentin Crisp as the rouge landlord, myself.

IrishDad79 Tue 12-Apr-16 23:16:16

I'm not a spelling and grammar Nazi, but that opening post was painful to read.

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