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Halftruth Sat 05-Mar-16 08:02:53

So my next door neighbour is a bit of a cracker ... Victor meldrew has nothing on back door bob (his nickname from before i moved in) he' alway's caused troubled with all the neighbour's not just me .... But my problem is not the fact none of us can use the down stair's toilet or have a shower after nine o' clock at night ( both of us neighbour's on either side are't allowed to) But he has 6 cctv camera's on his property....3 on his front garden and 3 on the back ...bare in mind that the back garden's are about the size of 3 carparking space's ...and the front garden well it's even smaller ... Now the weather is starting to get better and i feel like it's going to be another year where we not really going to be able to enjoy the little space that we so have .... He hasn't even had sign's up stating he's got cctv either ... And the way there pointing they cover both mine and my neighbour's back and front garden's ...is there anything i can do that. I won't get in trouble for ....as it's got to the point Were i just want to pull them down ...

NynaevesSister Sat 05-Mar-16 08:06:59

Good lord I would make a point of having showers after 9pm if that was us. He can't stop you from doing that - it's reasonable living noise!

Coconutty Sat 05-Mar-16 08:08:51

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Collaborate Sat 05-Mar-16 08:09:47

He's breaching the Data Protection Act by covering even a sliver of your garden.

From this

What if my camera captures footage of individuals beyond the boundaries of my property?

You must consider whether it is necessary for your camera to operate beyond the boundary of your property.

If your camera covers, even partially, any areas beyond the boundaries of your property, such as neighbouring gardens or the street, then it will no longer be exempt from the Data Protection Act (DPA) under the domestic purposes exemption. This does not mean that you are breaching the DPA but it does mean that you might need to take some steps to comply with it.

What can I do to make sure that what I’m doing complies with the DPA?

First, think about the problem you are trying to address and the best solution to it. This will usually be to safeguard you and your property against crime. Check your local police advice about crime prevention. Better locks or security lighting may be a more effective and less expensive way of securing your property.

If you decide to use CCTV cameras, you should:

consider what areas would need to be covered by it, will the camera capture images you actually need and how you will safeguard any recorded images so they can be used by the police to investigate crimes affecting you;
consider whether you can put up signs clearly explaining that recording is taking place and take steps to do so if it is practical;
have appropriate safeguards in place to ensure that the equipment is only operated in the ways you intend and can’t be misused. At its simplest, this means that anyone you share your property with, such as family members who could use the equipment, need to know how important it is not to misuse it;
ensure you have activated settings to enable the security of footage captured by the CCTV system and that any recordings of individuals are held securely. Make sure that you only allow access to people who need it;
consider speaking to your neighbours and explain what you are doing and any objections or suggestions they have. (It may be useful to invite your neighbours to view the footage that you capture, this may allay any concerns they may have about your use of a CCTV system.); and
consider purchasing equipment that enables you to control what you can record. This will enable you to keep privacy intrusion to a minimum.
You should remember that your use of a CCTV system may be appropriate but publicly uploading or streaming footage of individuals will require further justification and in most cases will not be justifiable.

As the data controller for this footage, individuals do have the right to request a copy of it from you under the DPA, if you collect their personal data.

MrsPnut Sat 05-Mar-16 08:12:02

I'd check whether his system is compliant with the DPA ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/

janethegirl2 Sat 05-Mar-16 08:13:02

I'd only have showers after 9pm to make the point that he cannot control this aspect of your life. I'd also flush the toilet every 15 minutes too.

Can you ask your local community police about the legality of the cctv or call 101 for info

Halftruth Sat 05-Mar-16 08:19:02

So does that me we as in both neighbour's could ask to see it ...last summer i started taking picture's to prove he was adjusting them when my youngest was playing in the garden ... Now i don't feel safe with her out there he had it pointing on her trampoline, which was at the house end of the garden not near his gate or back fence of his property .I complained to the housing officer after his visit about using the toilet after nine ... And nothing's changed ... I now feel like i can't use my garden as he's alway's watching what we are doing all the time ...

Halftruth Sat 05-Mar-16 08:20:53

Sorry didn't check my post hope you can understand ...

Collaborate Sat 05-Mar-16 08:24:18

I understand.

Firstly you can complain to the ODP (check the links above). He should be registered with them, and the website confirms what your rights are.

Secondly, I've heard instances of the police getting involved. I think they view it as harassment. Get in touch with your local station and they may well send someone out.

Do both though, not just one. Make him realise what a can of worms he's just opened.

LittleRedSparke Sat 05-Mar-16 08:29:05

Why can't you shower or use the downstairs look after 9pm?

Halftruth Sat 05-Mar-16 08:29:50

I'm going to check that link now ...i really don't want another summer like last year ... I wish i'd asked more question about the neighbour's before i exchanged house's ... But it is making if difficult to exchange again as i don't want to move area's as were settled here but everyone know's who he is ...

insancerre Sat 05-Mar-16 08:32:04

Nobody can tell you when to go to the pop or have a shower in your own house!

insancerre Sat 05-Mar-16 08:33:48

Pop?
Loo 😀

Halftruth Sat 05-Mar-16 08:35:21

Apparently when the toilets flush they make his gurgle too ... But no one else on the street seem' s to have that problem ... And apparently he can hear the shower ... We won't watch tv in the frontroom because he complain's to the council it's too loud ... The doors banging was the best one ... When the council came to the house they had to laught as there were no door's on ...as i was in the process of making new one's and had paid the council 3 week's prior to take them away ...

Katenka Sat 05-Mar-16 08:36:57

That's unacceptable. I reported a neighbour to the Police for just this the camera has come down.

We live on a leasehold estate that has rules that you can't park commercial vehicles. Some parks one near my house. A neighbour is obsessed that it's us and she came round (again) to announce she has cctv watching our property to prove its us that come out and get in the van. I just said 'thanks for letting us know' and called 101. They went came to us, we told them what's going on and they went round.

They told us that if she didn't accept it wasn't our van and stop coming round she could be done for harassment and that videoing our house was illegal.

The camera got moved that night and came down 2 days later.

toldmywrath Sat 05-Mar-16 08:39:35

Oh I rather like that expression "go to the pop" insancerre grin

Halftruth bloody hell what a nightmare, as others have said he cannot be allowed to point his cctv over your property. I would use my shower & toilet as & when I needed- nothing to do with him. What happens if you don't comply with his wishes then?

Hissy Sat 05-Mar-16 08:40:19

Please explain why you can't have. Shower after 9? Is this because he has an issue with it? Bugger that!

Ask for footage under the DPA. Ask every day for the footage until he removes them from filming your territory.

If you know that there was a dispute between him and the previous occupants of your house, you ought to speak to your solicitors as they needed to have divulged this to you by law.

Fedupwithknowitalls Sat 05-Mar-16 08:40:20

Use all the rooms and facilities in your house. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere with no neighbours then you have to expect normal living noises from neighbours. There is a world of difference between showering at 9pm and playing Metallica at full volume at 3am. If he complains, keep a record of it. Then present your evidence to the relevant authorities ( police, council anti social behaviour unit). And yes, act on the CCTV cameras now. No one should be able to dictate to others what they reasonably do in their homes or record children playing in their own garden.

Halftruth Sat 05-Mar-16 08:41:42

The first 2 straight away ...there are no sign's up ....and they do record sound the housing officer and a police officer told me that i can't say "don't go near that horrid git's garden" .... As i did to the kid's as he sit's and trawls through it ...

Hissy Sat 05-Mar-16 08:41:53

X-post.

Pop when you want! smile live life as you want to. He has no right to do this to you, and you can insist he removes the cctv.

zombiesarecoming Sat 05-Mar-16 08:44:25

Laser pointer

If you can manage to get the beam pointed into the lens without being seen on camera doing it then the laser will knacker the sensor in the camera

mix56 Sat 05-Mar-16 08:44:49

I would ask police if he is allowed to film your young child......they should be there in a minute.
As for the shower, forget it. You shower when you want to

APedantWrites Sat 05-Mar-16 08:45:48

I'm really sorry, I know it's not the point, but I can't bear it. <whispers> The mere fact that a word has an "s" at the end of it doesn't mean that you have to put an apostrophe in front of the s. You also need just one dot in a full stop, not three. <runs away>

SlinkyVagabond Sat 05-Mar-16 08:47:57

Id be putting up discreet signs in the line of the cameras saying "Fuck off nosy", get an Xbox and some really noisy games for the front room and get the galloping trots after 9.
Or ignore the git, record and report.

WombatStewForTea Sat 05-Mar-16 08:48:16

they do record sound the housing officer and a police officer told me that i can't say "don't go near that horrid git's garden"

Really? They told you that? confused
So they have been involved in the situation but he brought them in?

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