Ok I'm blatantly posting here for traffic. I do frequent the sleep section but it's mostly people struggling with sleep.
My ds2 is 8 months. He was a very clingy baby at first you could say. He had reflux, he wouldn't go to anyone but me and dad. He could really fight his sleep day and night, only sleep on me, couldn't put him down even for a minute.
He loads better now, his reflux has improved, I can generally just pop him in his cot for daytime naps, he mostly goes to bed quite happily at around 8pm by himself. He eats well, he's crawling and standing and plays happily. He self settles in his cot all other times.
Problem is night waking. He no longer has night feeds, I know people have different ideas about this but he hasn't had night feeds now since 6 months and I'm confident he's not waking for hunger.
He wakes up anytime after midnight and will only go back to sleep in our bed. We've tried everything. We've tried cc but he just gets more and more upset, believe me I've done it all with my first, ds2 just becomes inconsolable. Tried holding his hand through the cot lying him down, sometimes it works, sometimes he just keeps getting up again. He has a dummy which he can put back in by himself so he's not waking for that. Tried giving him a drink.
We've tried being determined and having him stay in his cot, it only resulted in everyone being awake for 2 hours, even when ds eventually goes back to sleep he will wake up again half an hour later.
It's not a huge problem for us, occasionally he does sleep through, sometimes he sleeps through until 3-4am, the situation has improve a lot from us being up every hour a couple of months ago. Most nights he wakes, I don't rush straight to him I leave him a few minutes to resettle himself, then I try lying him back down, if after 10 minutes or so he's becoming more awake we tend to just lift him into our bed so that we can all go back to sleep. I find I have to coddle him to keep him still or he just wants to play.
It would just be nice if we could get him to stay in his cot for the night.
Any ideas? Or would you just carry on as we are?
AIBU?
Aibu to think that there's no point in doing sleep training with my baby?
Pyjamaramadrama · 02/03/2016 10:36
I know it's a controversial subject, but how long did you try cc for??
We did it with my DD at about 8mo. The first night was awful - for us as parents more than for DD! There was no tears, but she was shouting really loudly! We went back in the room to lay her back down and settle her every 5 mins or so until she fell asleep. We had 2 nights like that, and then the following nights, she started to think it was game. She would stand up and bounce in her cot, babble away, make squealing noises, and then when one of us went in to settle her, she would either giggle at us, or immediately flop down onto her tummy and pretend to be asleep! Once this whole "game" thing started, we just stopped going up there at all (unless she cried of course!). After 2 days of her screaming and shouting, and about 5/6 days of "the game" she just took the hint and went to sleep on her own after milk and some cuddles!
I was close to giving up on the second night of screaming because I felt really cruel, but looking back on it, I'm so so glad we persevered with it! She's 10mo now, and once she's got her pyjamas on after bath time, she toddles to her bedroom door and bangs on it so we will open it for her, so she can walk to her cot 
Personally, I would say the last nap is too late. We used to have a very similar routine with DD (almost exact same nap times!). But she started waking in the night, or waking very very early in the mornings. At around 8mo I cut out the lunch time nap, brought the afternoon nap forward, and made bedtime a little earlier, and she started sleeping through again 
maybe try that??
I would drop the last nap and start putting him to bed at 6pm for 7. Good luck. I had a sleepless reflux baby. 
hard work.
I would just drop the last nap completely if you possibly can. The club runs are tricky though.
My ds2 was just like this, a brilliant sleeper, in fact. Lots of naps and went to bed like a dream. Unfortunately he, too liked to join us for the second part of the night. Until he was about 4 which will demonstrate that we never cracked it. It simply wasn't worth the grief..if he got earlier and earlier we would get a bit tough but otherwise one of us went and slept in another bed and he came into our bed.
He used to stand in his cot all ready clutching his toy cat, dummy and bottle of water wish he had maintained this level of organisation. It's much further down the line now and, easy for me to say but do whatever gets you most sleep. If he needs to be near you let him. Within reason. 
Sunset's routine is almost exactly the same as what we have now after cutting out the lunch time nap, and it works for us.
Even if your not overly bothered about having DS in bed with you for part of the night, it will always be nice to have your bed back to yourselves if he does begin to spend the whole night in his own bed
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This could be me - DD2 is 13 months and has been refusing to go back in her cot at night since she was 6 months. DH and I can't cosleep both together with her, one of us ends up on the edge of the bed and it just doesn't work, so one of us goes in the spare room. This means we haven't spent a full night together in the same bed since August. I don't mind cosleeping with DD, she is still tiny (to me) and I know she still needs me at night but...I miss DH. Even though he snores. 
Sleep consultant advised me that we need to make sure she sleeps more during the day, something about sleep cycles, but her daytime naps don't seem to correlate to any particular pattern of sleep at night time. Sometimes we can get her to stay in her cot to 1am or 2am, other nights she's wide awake at 9.30pm and refusing to go back down. Last night for instance she woke at 10, I sat with her in her room on the rocking chair for half an hour and she was deeply asleep on me. I put her in the cot fast asleep at 10.30 - but within 10 minutes she was awake and screaming again. There just isn't any pattern to it!
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