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former Dragon's Den panelist trial

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onceuponalurker · 29/01/2016 18:46

AIBU to not see all the threads about this now acquitted Dragon? Where is the outrage?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2016 18:56

I'm in Canada so didn't hear about this. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-35437118 How the hell was he acquitted when he had sex with a 13 year old?

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CarbonEmittingPenguin · 29/01/2016 19:29

I only heard the news this afternoon so it was only a matter of time before there was a thread on it. Maybe there already is in the news section.

He was acquitted because it was legally defensible that he did 'reasonably' believe the girl was over 16 as they'd been chatting on a website aimed at adults.

He, however, will always be a dirty scumbag imo.

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DreamingofSummer · 29/01/2016 19:30

No defence at all. Disgraceful

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2016 19:37

So if a bar serves a 13 year old, they would be fined because it's their fault they didn't ID but someone having SEX with a 13 YEAR OLD is fine as long as they say they thought a child was 16? In his fucking 50s. Urgh. I need a shower.

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AlwaysHopeful1 · 29/01/2016 19:39

How disgusting! Even worse he walked out holding his wife's hand. What an idiot she is.

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YakTriangle · 29/01/2016 19:43

He paid for sex with a young teenage girl and got her to send him naked pictures. He's a disgusting individual regardless of whether he's been found guilty of anything. At least his reputation is destroyed and people know how revolting he is. I can't imagine why his wife would stand by him after this.

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Gunting · 29/01/2016 19:44

Whether he knew she was 13 or not is really not the point. He had sex with an underage girl so he should be prosecuted

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WMittens · 29/01/2016 20:17

Whether he knew she was 13 or not is really not the point.

It is the point, though. If she misled him (by signing up to an adult website and checking the "confirm you're over 13/16/18" checkbox) and it was reasonable for him to assume she was over said age, then he was lied to. A 50 year old seeking out a 17 year old is another matter, but that would not be a legal matter.

He had sex with an underage girl so he should be prosecuted

He was prosecuted Confused He was found to be not guilty.

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JaneHair · 29/01/2016 20:21

She was only 5ft and weighed 6 stone. Surely her body would have seemed under developed for the age she was claiming to be?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2016 20:24

If we think 13 year old girls aren't mature enough to have sex, we presumably also think that sometimes they make poor choices (like lying about their age). I lied about mine consistently as a teen. For a 57 year old to pretend that he didn't know that she might be younger is total bullshit. It behooved him to know.

I ID-ed DH the first time I went home with him. For my safety rather than his. It's not unheard of.

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JingsAndCrivens · 29/01/2016 20:27

I knew there was a trial ongoing but I didn't realise he'd been found not guilty.

That's really depressing. But sadly not shocking.

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Chicagomd · 29/01/2016 20:29

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SirVixofVixHall · 29/01/2016 20:29

He is a paedo. 13 year old girls do not look like grown women, particularly when they are five feet tall and weigh less than 6 stone. There are 11 year olds in my dds school taller and heavier than that. He even asked her what she was doing after school. Vile.

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SirVixofVixHall · 29/01/2016 20:31

I think that Jordan's daughter is very obviously a small girl with a lot of slap on. Not a teenager. 13 is year 8, or the younger end of year 9. They still look really young. At 15, maybe some girls look like women, but at 13? No.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2016 20:35

Is there some reason that 57 year old men can't be held to the same sort of standard as a bloody off-licence? If someone looks under 25, ID them.

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LurcioAgain · 29/01/2016 20:39

That photo of Jordan's daughter clearly looks like a child pretending to be an adult by wearing lots of makeup.

Surely it behoves adult men to err on the side of caution - if you are 57 and the woman looks under 25, don't stick your dick in her.

I'm sure there's a fancy legal term for a crime where mens rea doesn't come into it, but I can't remember what it is - but I personally think under a certain age, and I think 13 is a reasonable cut-off - what the man thinks to have been the case should be utterly irrelevant. The fact that the child was, as a matter of material fact, only 13, should be enough to secure a conviction.

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JingsAndCrivens · 29/01/2016 20:42

Apparently he met up with over 100 young women from this website and I presume had sex with a significant number. How can his wife stand by him?

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Chicagomd · 29/01/2016 20:43

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2016 20:44

How can his wife stand by him? To misquote Mrs Merton... Why would the wife stand by her husband with a net worth of $75 million?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2016 20:45

Today's installment "every man is a paedophile regardless of the circumstances" Just those who have sex with 13 year olds.

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Chicagomd · 29/01/2016 20:48

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MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2016 20:51

I went out clubbing at 14. And was hit on by perverts. I looked like I could be 18 but realistically, could have been 14 as well.

He had sex with a 13 year old. He's a grown man. He should have checked. If you know that 13 year olds sometimes look older, why didn't he? She was 13.

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cleanmachine · 29/01/2016 20:52

I'm amazed he was found not guilty. She must have had the body of a child being 6 stone. Tiny. And he mentioned that he was into dominant/submissive sex which makes it even more unbearable. Creep.

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Flashbangandgone · 29/01/2016 20:56

How can his wife stand by him? To misquote Mrs Merton... Why would the wife stand by her husband with a net worth of $75 million?

Why indeed... Imagine the divorce settlement... Set up for life (and some) without having to spend moment with that pervert!

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LurcioAgain · 29/01/2016 20:57

With respect complete lack of respect, chicago, you are talking complete shite.

Why are you so invested in defending a creepy (albeit legally acquitted) scumbag?

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