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to think the poor staff in M&S cafes shouldn't have to wear hideous hair nets?

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bibbitybobbityyhat Mon 25-Jan-16 08:42:08

Having a reviving coffee in M&S with dd yesterday, and noticed the staff were wearing a horrible contraption like a baseball cap with a built-in hair net as part of their uniform. Why is this necessary? It isn't a bloody factory and anyway I can't imagine waiting staff or even food prep staff at the Ritz having to do this. Poor women, they just looked a bit gruesome I'm afraid. And infact they both had their hair tied back in pony tails inside the nets.

Aibu to think this is ott from a food hygiene pov? Neither were wearing gloves (again absolutely fine by me) and surely most "risk" comes from being served by people with dirty hands.

ceeveebee Mon 25-Jan-16 08:45:51

Probably had one too many complaints about hairs in the food!

PinkSparklyPussyCat Mon 25-Jan-16 08:46:40

It's nothing new. My first job was in a bakers and I had to wear a hair net. I'd rather see staff wearing hair nets than end up with hair in my food!

bibbitybobbityyhat Mon 25-Jan-16 08:51:10

Really pspc? You'd rather see all waiting staff in all food outlets and restaurants wearing a black nylon baseball cap with a hairnet attached?

Ok then.

Archer26 Mon 25-Jan-16 08:55:18

I agree they aren't the most flattering but as a pp says, rather that than hair in my food.

Also congrats op on managing to get so much sarcasm in such an innocuous reply.

MuttonDressedAsMutton Mon 25-Jan-16 08:58:34

YABU for having coffee in Marks & Spencer's. It is a department store not a coffee shop. I am always shock hmm at people who have coffee in Debenhams, BHS, M &S. Why? Just go to a coffee shop - an independent one if you can.

bibbitybobbityyhat Mon 25-Jan-16 08:59:46


MotherKat Mon 25-Jan-16 09:42:33

They switch between counter service an kitchen where nets are a requirement.
The caps are in my personal opinion considerably more comfortable than a traditional net and cap that were the standard when I started in the kitchens.

PseudoBadger Mon 25-Jan-16 09:46:01

As said previously they are multi-tasking - serving, prepping, cooking and cleaning. Because they work for a big company they have a uniform and equipment like hairnets. Staff in smaller cafes who do similar should be doing the same, but probably won't. M&S can make their staff do it...

Sparklingbrook Mon 25-Jan-16 09:47:40

Marks and Spencers coffee shops are rubbish. Did you know you can't have a bacon sandwich without butter on in them? shock

And the service is soooo slooooow.

But as for the hairnets, better than hairy food.

liz70 Mon 25-Jan-16 09:50:29

Having found a large hair on my food in a cafe once, I think all people who prepare and/or serve food should have their hair completely covered. They're not posing for a fricking glossy magazine.

bibbitybobbityyhat Mon 25-Jan-16 09:56:55

Yes, your point is what I'm getting at liz70. If it is not the law then I feel sorry for the staff in M&S. Why don't all cooks/chefs/waiting staff/Maitre D's at The Chiltern Firehouse have to cover their hair?

I don't often have a coffee in there, btw, but believe me there aren't many chi chi independent coffee shops in the rough old part of South East London where we were shopping yesterday. And we were pushed for time. Although why I am apologising for having a coffee in a cafe I really have no idea!

pizzaeatingmonkey Mon 25-Jan-16 09:57:47

After 25 years of working in chain restaurants I took over a small independent cafe. I discovered that, legally, as long as hair is off the face and well groomed you don't need to wear a hat.
In 3 years we never had one complaint of hair in food where previously it was a monthly complaint.
I think hats cause the head to sweat and irritate and staff are likely to fiddle with them causing hair to come out.

Beth2511 Mon 25-Jan-16 09:58:38

I am a manager for greggs and we have to wear hairnets. They dont look nice but they don't cause any bother and you forget all about them once they are on

bibbitybobbityyhat Mon 25-Jan-16 10:03:20

I think its a shame for you too Beth. I'll have a peek at the owners of the artisan bakery opposite my work later and see if they are wearing hairnets.

Dammit, now I want a really hot cheese and onion pasty grin!

Leelu6 Mon 25-Jan-16 10:06:47

YABU. I'm considering getting DH to wear a hairnet when he cooks.

Rogue short hair in food when he cooks sometimes.

MotherKat Mon 25-Jan-16 10:13:55

The rule when I started was if it was longer than an inch you netted and capped it, and this was in some pretty naice restaurants.

Katedotness1963 Mon 25-Jan-16 10:46:01

Everyone in food service should be wearing a hairnet!

bibbitybobbityyhat Mon 25-Jan-16 11:50:28

I am now going to take note everywhere I go!

SnuffleGruntSnorter Mon 25-Jan-16 11:53:41

Is it just the staff in M&S and the artisan bakery you're concerned about or would you have he same sympathy for those working in Greggs and the morrisons cafe, OP?

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Mon 25-Jan-16 11:56:01

Cooks and chefs at the Chiltern should have their hair covered.

Waiting staff not so much as they shouldn't be standing over the food and fussing with it.

bibbitybobbityyhat Mon 25-Jan-16 11:56:53

I refer you back to my post at 10.03.20 snuffle. Sorry to piss on your chips because you were hoping to make me out to be a terrible snob weren't you?

usual Mon 25-Jan-16 11:58:06

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usual Mon 25-Jan-16 12:02:15

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Thymeout Mon 25-Jan-16 12:02:35

I think hair nets are the least of their problems. Who on earth thought lime green was a good colour for staff uniform?

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