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NHSisfubar Wed 13-Jan-16 20:35:04

I'm due a pay rise. Been in the same job for over 3 years now at the same wage. I am struggling to find comparative wages in order to argue my point. I am a part time office manager; I am actually self employed (as run my own other small business around this job) so invoice through my company for the part time hours that I work which means I don't get any benefits such as pension etc. Boss does pay holiday bonus but not in line with what I'd get as an employed person.

Role includes admin, arranging fleet insurances, wages, letters to clients, dealing with HMRC and suppliers and being a go between for the business and our accountants. We have expanded a lot over the last few years so my role is more stressful than previous as I'm dealing with 70% more staff and associated paperwork for jobs they are on.

Wages in our area are low in comparison to housing costs; we are on the South coast in a holiday area that is relatively prosperous. AIBU to ask what you think would be an appropriate hourly wage if you are in a similar role? Laying cards on the table I'm currently on £10ph.

tootiredtoknow Wed 13-Jan-16 20:39:28

Office manager role pay varies dramatically. The best advise would come from a local recruitment agent.

topcat2014 Wed 13-Jan-16 20:39:51

(wrote a long reply then deleted it)

Contractor rate should be around £15-18, given the NIC employer avoids etc.

PAYE rate should be at least £25k per year I would have thought.

Watch out for hidden tax liabilities for you under IR35

19lottie82 Wed 13-Jan-16 20:40:00

£10 an hour seems low for an office manager role. Also as self employed, you should be encorporating holiday pay (28 days pa pro rata) and associated employee benefits in to your hourly rate, as a contractor, I would expect at least another 50%

I keep an eye on job boards and average wage for an office manager seems to be 25-30k imo.

19lottie82 Wed 13-Jan-16 20:40:36

Cross posted with topcat!

LouieLou2013 Wed 13-Jan-16 20:40:39

I do almost exactly the same as you, also part time. I earn £12, also get sick, hols, pension etc. Money due to go up in April I imagine by about £1 an hour I hope! I'm in the south west.

Self employed I'd guess in the region of £15-20. Can you just not tell the. Your hourly rate is going up?

rosewithoutthorns Wed 13-Jan-16 20:47:37

All the above sounds really low. Mind you I am in London. Self employed office manager £20 per hour.

NHSisfubar Wed 13-Jan-16 20:53:00

Thanks for the replies; yes I could just say "I'm charging x as of next week" but when I took the role on we discussed wage and that is what we agreed on. It's because it has been 3 years now I need a rise. I do get gain in that my boss is quite flexible (if I need to deal with my own clients I can answer phone whilst in office and make time up after for example) and I also store 2 large pieces of equipment for my own business there which saves me renting a garage or similar. So I'm happy to take slightly less than going rate in exchange for this flexibility. I've looked online and similar jobs seem to end up at anywhere from £7 up to around £12 as employed which seems low to me?

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