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fitforflighting Wed 06-Jan-16 13:29:19

I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

RidersOnTheStorm Wed 06-Jan-16 13:31:49

The teachers don't make the rules. It's the head teacher and the governors.

Most teachers I know don't care what colour hair the DCs have.

And teachers are adults so the HT can't dictate to them how they wear their hair.

SavoyCabbage Wed 06-Jan-16 13:36:17

I think part of the reason is so that they are focussing on things that are not their hair. Like maths or whatever, rather than talking about who has the best hair.

fitforflighting Wed 06-Jan-16 13:38:38

No I know that teachers are not the ones making the rules. I meant I do not get the issue in general.

Chattymummyhere Wed 06-Jan-16 13:40:31

Because school like everyone to be the same. If they have ruled they have to stick to them or none of the pupils would bother listening to anything. Why did so many suddenly dye their hair red and purple before school had finished? Surely they could of waited a few more days.

dementedpixie Wed 06-Jan-16 13:42:17

I think it's daft too. My kids school doesn't have issue with dyed hair judging by some of the kids I have seen going in and out of there

Atenco Wed 06-Jan-16 13:42:50

My brother in the sixties had to have short hair to go to school, whereas my nephews in the eighties were not allowed to have their hair too short at school. I don't believe in encouraging young people to follow fashion, but I do think it is unnecessarily cruel to insist they have the exact opposite of what fashion dictates.

inlovewithhubby Wed 06-Jan-16 13:43:13

If I were the parent of a child sent home because of dyed hair, i would bring them back in myself, with my dyed hair, and ask why teachers are subject to different rules than my child.

I get the H&S stuff too. Dangly earrings are a no no but hair style and colour is a great way of expressing individuality without permanent effect. I'd encourage this sort of expression in an age group where sheep mentality is rife.

Discussing hair colour would happen at breaks, like discussing boy/girlfriends, parties, other teenage crap. It's for the teacher to ensure lessons are not disrupted by all manner of distraction. Hair dye won't interrupt education but being sent home would. I'd encourage the parents to launch an inordinately loud protest.

5Foot5 Wed 06-Jan-16 13:43:37

My DDs school had a rule like this. There was quite a bit of emphasis on dressing in a certain why to improve behaviour etc.

In Sixth Form thy had to wear suits and there were very specific guidelines about what was acceptable. TBF the teachers did stick to these too.

I think it was all to do with learning how to present yourself in a professional manner. "Dress to impress"

IHaveBrilloHair Wed 06-Jan-16 13:46:21

Dd's school don't have this rule, her hair is currently black/orange/blonde

whois Wed 06-Jan-16 13:46:34

Can anyone like to evidence that says a strict uniform and hair policy leads to higher attainment....?

Usually new heads in shit schools just turned into academy's go in all guns blazing about stupid stuff such as 'always wear your blazer even when it's 39 degrees' as a sparkle sparkle distraction technique.

tiggytape Wed 06-Jan-16 13:46:55

Most schools allow pupils to dye their hair natural colours (so blonde, auburn, brown and black). It is only pillar box reds, bright purples etc that are not allowed because that opens the way for not at all natural colors that schools wish to ban - pinks, blues and green etc.
Teachers enforce the school rules but don't set them and certainly aren't subject to them (although they will have dress codes that they have to comply with in their individual schools in many cases).

If you mean why do they care about appearance at all - most schools want pupils to represent them well (so look smart) and to have a uniform appearance that doesn't lead to choice of hairstyle etc being a big issue at school. For the same reason some schools ban logos on coats and shoes so that having the trendy thing doesn't become an issue.

bigsnugglebunny Wed 06-Jan-16 13:48:56

It does seem a bit pernickity to me, my son's school (not private or fee paying) has a policy on socks. They have to be black, and form tutors actually have to waste time in the morning checking socks ffs. Children have been sent to isolation for non black socks, stripes on black, embroidery on black... It is absolutely ridiculous.

SisterMoonshine Wed 06-Jan-16 13:49:06

I guess it's to stop the extreme styles you mention.
It's difficult to stipulate that some bits are okay and other bits aren't. Especially when dealing with teens who will want to find ways to push boundaries.
A bit like when I tell my toddler not to do something and she does it, but much less, to see if she can get away with doing it a bit and get the last say.
So they just stipulate 'no dye'.

meditrina Wed 06-Jan-16 13:50:08

Comparing teachers to pupils is like comparing apples to oranges.

The dress code for each is different.

Dyed hair for pupils, if you can tell that it's dyed, would fall under the 'extreme' bit if the policy, from the sound of it. If you cannot tell that it's dyed, then it wouldn't be noticed let alone sanctioned.

Much better to have a clear enforceable rule than tie up everyone's time in debate.

thisismypassword Wed 06-Jan-16 13:51:24

Please don't compare the students to the teachers. They are not the same. My teen students have that mentality. I just reply.. Do you see me wearing the uniform? I've been through,school and university, we are not equals when it comes to what we wear at school. Then they come out sometimes with crap about their human rights!! Hehehe

LottieDoubtie Wed 06-Jan-16 13:53:03

If I were the parent of a child sent home because of dyed hair, i would bring them back in myself, with my dyed hair, and ask why teachers are subject to different rules than my child

Hahaha, I bet those bastarding teachers don't have to wear blazers or uniform ties either do they? Are you cross that they don't have to do maths homework or play for the rugby team too?

It's one thing to object to a school rule, but the premise that it's unfair as it doesn't apply to an adult employee is ridiculous.

LumpySpaceCow Wed 06-Jan-16 13:54:33

I attended a grammar school that was incredibly strict on uniform and appearance. At the time I hated it but from an adult perspective I now see it as a way to prepare children for the workplace I.e. Most jobs have some rules that you may not agree with but you have to stick to them or you may get sacked/disciplined.
I don't think it is about the specific rule per se (as all schools have different ones) more the fact that the children show that they can follow them.

tiggytape Wed 06-Jan-16 13:55:10

I don't think hair dye is a particular antidote to sheep mentality with teens anyay.

The dip dying craze and the pastel hair colour craze was no different to everyone wanting a Superdry bag instead of the regulation school one a few years back.

i.e freer choice of hair colour just creates new sheep mentalities - trends that teens feel pressured to follow so those that can't feel left out. It is much rarer for a single bold individual to use free choice as an opportunity to break away and to do something completely different at this age (12-16)

fitforflighting Wed 06-Jan-16 13:58:27

I understand the need for general smart appearance. The dc uniform is very smart.

Surely teens will just find some other worst way of being individual and talk about that instead like shaving their eyebrows off and drawing them back on.

Yes we have the black sock check too.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams Wed 06-Jan-16 13:59:35

I remember a trend for a henna burgundy wash through brown hair when I was at secondary school. Looked great if you were a brunette but v amusing when a naturally bright blonde girl tried it. V vivid pink outcome! she was sent home to wash it out over and over.

Given the colours are not extreme it sounds a bit OTT but I suppose it's easier to just ban it altogether than to have to take a subjective view on whether or not it's a little too strong.

I think that people do judge a school on the presentation of it's pupils. Illogical but entirely true.

shazzarooney99 Wed 06-Jan-16 14:00:03

LottieDoubtie i couldnt have put it better myself xxxxx

Dancergirl Wed 06-Jan-16 14:01:46

YABU

I like schools with high standards of discipline and dress. If you don't like or agree with the rules don't send your child to that school.

It's not about the hair or the socks per se, it's about following rules. Good for children and teens to get used to that.

fitforflighting Wed 06-Jan-16 14:02:09

Just for the record again: I WAS NOT BLAMING TEACHERS.

grin

BanningTheWordNaice Wed 06-Jan-16 14:09:31

I'm always bemused by the obsession with uniform in English schools. I went to school outside of the UK. 90-95% of my year went on to do a degree, most have at least a master's. All of my friends have got into good careers. None of us had a uniform and quite often people wore things that would get a detention in schools here e.g. bright red hair.

I used to dress as a completely unoriginal goth with purple streaks in my hair on occasion. I did, however, do work experience right the way through school including at the European parliament and somehow managed to dress incredibly smartly and behave professionally in all of these roles without having been instructed how to by my school. Unfortunately I think it's another example of where some kids aren't getting life skills from their parents and so schools have a blanket rule for everyone when they're not necessary for most people.

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