Heard neighbors conspiring to get my evicted

[kittypaws]

I know this is the wrong time to say this but i have been in tears and i feel sick, Im also alone right now as my little one is with her dad.

Today i heard the man upstairs talking to the guy downstairs about me. He said
"im was going to buy my flat but not with her there"
"i have heard her slam doors at 3 am lets both say we heard her slam doors and get her out"
"i dont know what her problem is with me she ignores me we need to get her evicted"
and he said something about me opening his letters which is BS i put his letters on the side always. Im not interested in his life.
They were also discussing were my doors were so to say which one i am slamming.

im the middle flat, The man downstairs complained about me because i started to ignore the door and told him i like to be left alone. He turned bitter and started making up complaints, he had recorders in his flat which came back as nothing.
He recently made a complaint about me slamming my living room door to which the manager has been in my flat and said there is no door on my living room, he also said im dragging stuff in my bedroom with no carpet again manager has been here and confirmed i have carpet and underlay.

Now the man upstairs is the main problem, he has laid laminate flooring, which is why he has got it in for me and is starting this hate campaign.
He was not allowed to lay laminate flooring but he did which is why he is trying to get me evicted.
he keeps saying "ive been here 15yrs"
"ive been here 13yrs"
"ive been here 10 yrs"

he just makes up stuff, he has actually been here since 2009 as the guy across the road told me. He is just a compulsive liar who makes up irrelevant points.
He was the main one making the above comments about getting me evicted and he is doing it because i have complained about his laminate which is not allowed.

I did ring the housing association today to tell them of the comments as i previously thought the two men had issues but everything that has been said about me recently is making sense.
They are both saying im slamming doors and making noise to try get me evicted.

what can i do about this?

I have a plan to remove all my doors, throw them away and then see if any complaints are made.
The worse thing is they both are the ones who slam doors.
I just feel like shit right now and i have posted about the two neighbors before on here.

[comedycentral]

I would start looking for somewhere else to lived possible. You shouldn't have to but I can't imagine living in that atmosphere. X

[emilybrontescorset]

I don't have any advice but someone will be along soon to help.

[Yoksha]

Is it possible to try and record their convos? Maybe moving isn't an option as your dc may be at school. TBH, I wouldn't want to live between 2 head cases who'd stoop that low. I'd not feel safe. Is there a male family member who can be around?. Nothing else to add. for you.

[howtorebuild]

Who would want to live there anyway.

[TheXxed]

Moving when you are in social housing is difficult, I would be proactive make an appointment with your housing officer and detail your complaints.

[WishingForSnow]

Had you complained about the laminate flooring before all this started? Might explain why they're being such assholes.

[fidel1ne]

Don't just ring the HA, write a letter setting the whole thing out as it is in your OP and send it recorded delivery. Then push to get any complaints from them dealt with as harassment.

[BadlyBehavedShoppingTrolley]

Don't remove your doors but wedge them back so they can't possibly slam and don't close them. Start a diary saying that you've done this. And possibly ask the council to put a noise recorder actually in your flat so if they make false allegations it can be proven you've done nothing wrong.

Why do they want you out though? I they are having to make stuff up about the noise and the doors, then what it the real reason they've taken against you?

[kittypaws]

it is hard to move as my dc school is walking distance, really good location and if i get them to move it may be far away its also hard to get them to move me.
wishing i did complain about his laminate flooring which is why he has suddenly made all these complaints about me and he is trying to use the guy downstairs as backup before that the way i closed the door was completely fine.
fidel1ne I am going to do that as well, so its all documented.

[Birdsgottafly]

I agree with writing that letter.

If the complaints were made, they would put recorders and/or vibration recorders in their flats.

If they get found to be making constant false accusations, then they are harassing you and your Housing Officer should deal with that.

In truth, as shown up to now, they are powerless.

Don't let these pair of twats get to you.

[kittypaws]

badly, with the guy downstairs it was because he wanted an over friendly relationship with me, like coming in and gossiping which i told him several times i was busy and i like to be left alone. After this the complaints came.

With the guy upstairs its because i complained about him having laminate flooring, its very loud upstairs and i tried to put up with it for months but it was making me lose sleep and i was getting awoken as well as my dc.
In our tenancy agreement it states he cannot have laminate flooring, so its the fact i exposed he had laid this.
I only complained about him recently like two months ago. I have been here since march

[comedycentral]

Maybe start keeping a diary and collecting evidence. Their behaviour could escalate if they don't get their wish to evict you. X

[DontMindMe1]

they're bullying you. Report their bully behaviour to the HA in a letter and ask them to deal with it. keep a written diary of what's happening and how it's making you feel and affecting your and dc lives.

don't give them power to victimise you.

[BadlyBehavedShoppingTrolley]

Do you mean your DD lives with her dad, or it just visiting today? If she normally lives with you how old is she? Does she make a lot of noise crying or running around?

[Unreasonablebetty]

The only way to deal with this is keeping the housing association informed, the fact they've made false allegations previously will mean that their word is not going to be believed as much as it may have been otherwise.

Please try not to worry about them. The one above is being vile because they have got in trouble for not following rules, and the one below you sounded like he may have wanted in your knickers and is acting nasty because his prides hurt.... Sad sad man.

this sounds a bit of an odd suggestion I know, but they are bullies, quite obvious that the one upstairs is the one with the real issue with you,
Maybe you could break up their little friendship, just be nice to downstairs, I'll guarantee you that he will no longer be taking part in the lying to get you chucked out.

Have a nice Christmas op, they are cunts.

[Dipankrispaneven]

Don't throw away the doors, it would be a breach of your tenancy agreement.

[RustyParker]

Definitely make a formal complaint to your HA. They are harassing you and the HA's anti-social behaviour team should be writing to these neighbours telling them to back off.

My DSis had a similar problem. One or two of the neighbours wanted the block to be occupied by older people but the HA had no such age restriction on that block.

Your HA should be fitting noise recording equipment so their complaints can be proved to be malicious.

It is horrible and I feel for you. Some people are just not suited for living in flats if they expect silence. Although you aren't making the noise they are accusing you of, it is normal to expect to hear doors closing / general living noise in ajoining flats. Funnily enough, your upstairs neighbour has removed any sound proofing by laying laminate.

I hope you get it sorted

[juneau]

I agree that you need to let the HA know what you overheard, plus I would tell them what you've told us on this thread about why these two nasty men have got it in for you. How very unpleasant for you to have to live sandwiched between them.

[notquitehuman]

You could add door dampeners which would stop you from being able to slam your doors. It's very hard to get people evicted over noise, even if the complaint is genuine, so I doubt they'll get far making things up.

Honestly though, I would see if I could move in your shoes. They sound like right lunatics and I'm not sure I'd feel safe.

[amarmai]

op, my experience is that a woman living without a man is regarded as easy prey , espec with cc. I am concerned as to whether this sit cd escalate and become more unsafe for you. I wd want to move for that reason even if it results in more travelling distance to school. Is it possible for you to make a case on the basis of harrassment , lies and unsafe sit to the HA and get another flat away from these men? Keep a paper trail is the first rule in making a case and if poss get support and proof for your case.

[gamerchick]

Don't chuck your doors, you can do things to doors so you couldn't slam them if you tried.

Get in there first and start an harassment thing against him. Try not to worry about eviction but I would worry about some sort of personal attack as he escalates things. Which is why you need to get in there first.

[HelenaDove]

The bloke living above you knows fine well he has broken the tenancy agreement by laying laminate flooring so hes really being stupid drawing the HAs attention to him surely. I live in an upstairs flat and that wouldnt even cross my mind.

Its harassment OP. Keep reminding the HA that he broke his tenancy agreement.

[Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost]

Please do not let these idiotic bullies ruin your Christmas for you. You're housing association aren't going to evict you any way on their word. They'd need fool proof evidence. Plus it would have to go to court first to be granted an eviction and even then . it's not inevitable.
And I doubt any judge would evict you over doors opening and closing.
Easier said than done, granted but try to relax with a nice . And have a good Christmas. X

[kittypaws]

thank you everyone for your kind words, i have calmed down a bit and feel a bit better.