Social housing and Syrian Refugees

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Plentymoresharks Wed 23-Dec-15 08:20:22

Controversial one. A memo has gone out from the local council to local residents, asking whether anyone has a property they can offer for Syrian refugees, housing benefit will be paid as well as a premium and money to hold the property until it is occupied, money for decorating and repairing the property etc.

Aibu to find it ridiculous that basically the council will be housing refugees who have been flown around the world ahead of people already on the waiting list for social housing? Also, there are homeless people who I see every day, living in the park and under a car park bridge but they aren't getting this same help (the memo mentions the social and medical help the refugees will also be given).

RJnomore1 Wed 23-Dec-15 08:22:04

Yes you are.

I can't even be arsed explaining why. I'm so angry about some of the attitudes to this.

Just as an aside that's not social housing you describe.

TheWitTank Wed 23-Dec-15 08:22:14

biscuit

Plentymoresharks Wed 23-Dec-15 08:22:24

This is in London btw, so London rents will be paid.

abbieanders Wed 23-Dec-15 08:22:40

So what are you suggesting? Bring in refugees and not house them?

shiteforbrains Wed 23-Dec-15 08:24:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Plentymoresharks Wed 23-Dec-15 08:25:23

No I'm suggesting that if there isn't even enough housing for those who need it already then don't fly more people round the world. I have no idea whether there is more housing available elsewhere in the country, but there is a shortage here already.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Wed 23-Dec-15 08:25:42

You are brave to post on AIBU.

But it is a controversial subject. Why won't you explain RJ?

If you invite refugees into your country to offer a safe haven, you can't expect them to sleep on the streets, so I would expect them to jump social housing queues. I take it from RJ that is an unreasonable assumption, but I don't know why it would be.

Plentymoresharks Wed 23-Dec-15 08:25:51

I can provide the memo if you like.

PopcornFrenzy Wed 23-Dec-15 08:26:13

OP I agree with you to a point that maybe charity should begin at home but you have to remember that these people have fled their war torn country risked life and limb to have the type of life every human deserves.

I live in Germany where there are a lot of refugees being housed in big camp type places and to be honest they're not very nice at all but what can be done?

Plentymoresharks Wed 23-Dec-15 08:27:19

kva.org.uk/assets/documents/2015-landlords-information

Pantone363 Wed 23-Dec-15 08:28:11

OP I vaguely understand where you are coming from. But they are vulnerable people who need helping.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Wed 23-Dec-15 08:28:11

Popcorn I read that in Germany, German residents are being displaced in favour of the refugees, is that really happening?

Plentymoresharks Wed 23-Dec-15 08:29:20

I wonder how the homeless feel to know they get less help. I do contribute to homeless charities btw.

PopcornFrenzy Wed 23-Dec-15 08:29:40

Yep, the German people are not happy about it...the refugees are quite intimidadating too

maxxytoe Wed 23-Dec-15 08:32:02

I'd be annoyed too if a refugee jumped the queue and I'd been on the list waiting for a long time

aprilanne Wed 23-Dec-15 08:32:13

i totally agree charity begins at home we have enough homeless folk without taking others .

honkinghaddock Wed 23-Dec-15 08:33:28

Some of the homeless people are there for far more complicated reasons than not having been given somewhere to live.

WeThreeMythicalKings Wed 23-Dec-15 08:35:15

Charity begins at home?

The Earth is my home, these people are my neighbours.

Noeuf Wed 23-Dec-15 08:35:30

Oh for goodness sake, it's just a request to local landlords that they consider privately renting to people who will be claiming housing benefit. There's a small incentive to outweigh the risks.

Noeuf Wed 23-Dec-15 08:35:59

I actually agree with RJ on this.

RJnomore1 Wed 23-Dec-15 08:36:36

Through no I completely agree with you I'm fed up trying to explain to misinformed people. Sorry if it came across the other way.

PinkFondantFancy Wed 23-Dec-15 08:37:57

Oh please. All these people that say charity starts at home and we should help the homeless - people are homeless for many and complex reasons and it's not a problem you can 'fix first'. Have you seen what the people of Syria are fleeing?? I suspect not otherwise you'd have more compassion. They and their children are the same as you and I, just given a less fortunate roll of the dice

fakenamefornow Wed 23-Dec-15 08:38:20

Actually I think yanbu, it's madness to house them in London. Councils have whole empty streets in some grim northern cities, they could be used for much less cost. Problem is, last thing we want are Syrian ghettos and those streets are empty for a reason, nobody wants to live there. I don't know what the answer is. I can understand why you would feel pissed off by this, image you're a family of five trying to make some sort of Christmas for your children in a grim homeless b&b looking a years before the council house you and others step off the plane straight into a fully furnished flat.

lionheart Wed 23-Dec-15 08:38:39

They are refugees.

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