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To think you don't get a pet without research?

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lastqueenofscotland Sun 20-Dec-15 21:30:32

My next door neighbours a week ago saw a litter of border collie puppies advertised on fb... Went to see them the same day and just bought litter mates home. Having never owned a dog, no previous interest in ownig dogs, literally scrolling through fb on a quiet weekend and decided 2 farm bred collie puppies were a brilliant idea...

They, a week in are totally run riot by them, exhausted by all the poo/noise/just how tricky puppies are... They've come to us for advise (vv doggy family- have qualified crufts a few times etc)

I'm really struggling for sympathy seeing as they clearly did no research. They've not even looked up vets in the area to sort jabs. It's on the to do list.

They've got litter mates, a working breed, bought of a dodgy breeder from the internet... We've bred and we'd never sell litter mates to novice owners and never advertise on the internet and never let anyone take a puppy they'd day they viewed it.

Obviously we have offered to help as much as we can but Aibu to feel plenty of sympathy for the dogs but a lot less for the owners who couldnt be bothered to do the simplest of research???

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Sun 20-Dec-15 21:35:36

YANBU but sadly I am unsurprised at what has happened, I bet those poor pups find themselves in a shelter before Christmas is out.

I have a BC, her mum was a 'failed' farm dog, our girl is beautiful but bloody hard work as she is so damned clever.

Boutonneux Sun 20-Dec-15 21:38:39

Absolutely ridiculous. This makes me so angry. When we were looking for our puppy (Dalmatian) we researched for months, looking into breeders and speaking to people who owned the breed. We visited the breeders twice and were pretty much "interviewed" (in a nice way!) before they decided we could have one of their precious puppies.

The puppy in question is now 4 and is the apple of my eye. I would be surprised if these 2 poor unfortunates last until the new year before they are re-homed/given to rescue as the owners "just can't cope".

Bet they'd have put more research into the next car/holiday/fridge; never mind the 2 living breathing animals they've just taken on.

raisin3cookies Sun 20-Dec-15 21:38:50

I feel bad for the puppies. Unless the owners do a serious amount of scrambling and research, those dogs will be utterly unmanageable and end up in a shelter by next Christmas.

I have a friend who got a black lab pup and they never exercised him or trained him properly. Made me very annoyed.

We plan on getting a dog and 2 cats next year but will be doing plenty of reading about the breeds we want first. I used to run puppy training classes many years ago so don't remember everything but enough to know they are hard, hard work.

doitanyways Sun 20-Dec-15 21:41:19

Well yes, I agree with you in theory. But I must admit, I got a dog not without doing no research at all, but I did walk into it a bit starry-eyed, thinking since dogs were everywhere I'd be fine.

I researched the breed but ended up with a weirdo puppy who wasn't typical of the 'quiet, gentle' breed. She was gentle but NOT quiet!

I'm pleased you're helping them flowers

WhoTheFuckIsSimon Sun 20-Dec-15 21:42:49

One of my friends did exactly the same, also with collies.

5 years on theyve calmed down, she's besotted, they're well looked after. It may work out.

Aeroflotgirl Sun 20-Dec-15 21:44:05

Yanbu at all, stupid selfish people. Yes come the new year, they will be given to animal centres.

catfordbetty Sun 20-Dec-15 21:44:44

Your neighbours are, frankly, stupid.

PacificDogwod Sun 20-Dec-15 21:47:01

It's madness, but happens all the bloody time.

YANBU, of course.
And lovely to be willing to help.
I think I'd be tempted to suggest to them to take the puppies back and get a tamagochi.

EponasWildDaughter Sun 20-Dec-15 21:48:26


Even for small pets.

May i ask why the litter mate thing is a problem? Genuine Q?

TheoriginalLEM Sun 20-Dec-15 21:50:52

Border collies and inexperienced owners = problems

TWO bordercollies and inexperienced owners = big problems

litter mates? <<shakes head>> sad

fucking idiots.

coffeeisnectar Sun 20-Dec-15 21:55:09


I knew a couple years ago who got a bc and they were both out at work all day. It all but destroyed their house culminating in them coming home to find it had managed to dig/chew a hole in the wall into next door. Poor dog.

We love dogs but even though I am always home I'm not fit enough to care for one so we have cats.

lastqueenofscotland Sun 20-Dec-15 21:56:42

Yes we've had bc in the past so my heart sank through the floor when I heard that was the breed they had gone for.

Having them was a lifestyle rather than having a pet.

EponasWildDaughter Sun 20-Dec-15 21:58:19

OK, googled it. Makes sense.

Perniciousness Sun 20-Dec-15 22:01:39

Can someone explain why littermates are a problem. I'm never going to own a dog but I'm cureous Thanks.

I love dogs but have decided being an 'auntie' to my friends dogs is much more my style.

theycallmemellojello Sun 20-Dec-15 22:02:16

Hmm I think it depends if they put the effort into managing them tbh. If they dove in without a clue but end up working things out I don't see the problem. I don't think stress at the end of one week necessarily means they will be terrible owners.

PacificDogwod Sun 20-Dec-15 22:04:34

Dogs are time/work consuming pets.

Puppies are worse.

BC can be worse.

BC puppies is like trouble to the power of 2.

Cross that with inexperienced owners…. the poor dogs are going to bear the brunt of any mistakes made, aren't they?

Duck90 Sun 20-Dec-15 22:05:26

I agree with theycallme , it will be stressful, but hope they can ride the storm of 2 pups.

EponasWildDaughter Sun 20-Dec-15 22:05:48

Perniciousness - i've just googled this and learned that (basically) there is a danger that litter mates will bond and play with each other to the exclusion of their new owners.

This makes training them and bonding with them harder for the owners. Just like two naughty little children together ignoring the grown ups smile

Nataleejah Sun 20-Dec-15 22:12:41

But i'm a hypocrite here. Our dog just happened. A family we know couldn't keep him any longer (bitter divorce) and it would be a shame for such a beautiful dog to end up in a shelter. He's an older dog.

LyndaNotLinda Sun 20-Dec-15 22:13:25

I suspect people who buy a couple of puppies off the internet aren't likely to put in enough time and energy to managing them. After all, the research is the easy bit. Training them's the hard part

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints Sun 20-Dec-15 22:17:31

Littermates are difficult even for an experienced owner never mind a novice. BCs need so much mental stimulation I really can't imagine having 2 & trying to train them.
Sadly people do this all the time. A quick look on pets4homes will show an awful amount of dogs 6 months + for sale. They've lost the puppy cuteness by that age and are heading towards adolescence. Beethoven was on the tv a few weeks ago a friend logged more 50 calls, texts and emails asking for Saint pups sad. Some as brief as 'ow much for a Beethoven'.

BertieBotts Sun 20-Dec-15 22:20:57

Litter mates is more than twice the work because you can't just train them together, you have to train them each separately, toilet train separately, etc, and you can't hold off on socialising them because they're already together so you have to train them both alone and together all at once.

If you don't know all of that then you'll probably try to train them together which means that the training will be less effective and more stressful.

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