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if fgm is now illegal why is male circumcision still allowed?

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southeastastra Thu 26-Nov-15 20:55:11

pretty self explanatory by my title, but shouldn't it be a decision made when 18 and an adult?

Kelsoooo Thu 26-Nov-15 20:56:37

Because FGM is a barbaric ritual, performed to keep women "in their place" and can lead to life long pain?

A circumcision is in no way the same as FGM. "Genital mutilation"...you arent mutilating a penis by removing the foreskin.

MrsTerryPratchett Thu 26-Nov-15 20:59:37

I think linking the two is not a good idea for either campaign against.

I'm not 'pro' either but FGM is in a world of it's own.

slugseatlettuce Thu 26-Nov-15 20:59:15

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gamerchick Thu 26-Nov-15 20:59:53

Personally I think tying a baby to a board and cutting bits off it to be mutilation.

SevenSeconds Thu 26-Nov-15 21:00:38

DS had a circumcision age 9 for medical reasons. Is that ok in your opinion?

ThroughThickAndThin01 Thu 26-Nov-15 21:00:59

Medical reasons.

TheTravellingLemon Thu 26-Nov-15 21:02:54

Who ties a baby to a board gamerchick?

slugseatlettuce Thu 26-Nov-15 21:03:09

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Iwantakitchen Thu 26-Nov-15 21:03:24

Never heard of a girl who had fgm for medical reasons...

AnyFucker Thu 26-Nov-15 21:08:10

I don't approve of either (except for medical reasons re. circumcision) but the two are not remotely comparable

to attempt to compare them makes one look ignorant, uneducated and like someone who gets a hard on from whataboutery

slugseatlettuce Thu 26-Nov-15 21:09:42

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BartholinsSister Thu 26-Nov-15 21:09:23

If FGM was limited to cutting back the clitoral hood, I guess that would make it similar to male circumcision. Would people be happy with that I wonder?

AnyFucker Thu 26-Nov-15 21:11:49

oh hang on, I get it

you forgot to put "light hearted" in your title

silly me

slugseatlettuce Thu 26-Nov-15 21:11:55

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Mistigri Thu 26-Nov-15 21:13:13

There are different types of female circumcision, some less extreme than others. All are illegal.

I don't mean to equate FGM with the male version - but plainly the surgical alteration of little boy's penises carries some risks.

Ultimately I think if non-medically indicated genital alteration is illegal then it should be illegal for everyone, or at least only possible on older children and young adults capable of giving informed consent.

Yarboosucks Thu 26-Nov-15 21:16:43

Plenty of boys have to be circumcised for medical reasons - thereafter they can look forward to plenty of teasing at school. So great thread idea OP - lets add a bit of stigma to it too!

QueenLaBeefah Thu 26-Nov-15 21:18:08

I don't actually agree with male circumcision apart from medical reasons

That being said FGM is, more often than not, on par with male castration.

southeastastra Thu 26-Nov-15 21:20:30

i am certainly not uneducated af

it is comparable as children do not have the choice. same with ear pierciing

QueenLaBeefah Thu 26-Nov-15 21:23:35

A bit crass to compare FGM with ear piercing.

slugseatlettuce Thu 26-Nov-15 21:24:17

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HeiressesGiltnor Thu 26-Nov-15 21:24:42

If male circumcision was the performed to the same 'level' as FGM then the baby would have 1/3 of its penis cut off. With male circumcision the skin removed is to some extent, excess. It does not limit the mans ability have pleasurable a sex life, or to have children. It is not performed by women trying to exert their control over 'their' men. Boys are not routinely taken on holiday to be mutilated without their permission or knowledge. Male circumcision is generally done by qualified medical practitioners, in safe, sterile environments when the baby is very young. Pain relief is generally provided. FGM is not performed by 'professionals' and women are at risk of infection and accidents and lasting damage when surgery goes wrong.

That is why male circumcision is not comparable.

ilovesooty Thu 26-Nov-15 21:25:07

I thinkAF is spot on.

KaluzaKlein Thu 26-Nov-15 21:25:44

Circumcision should be carried out only with the consent of the owner of the penis. Unless it's for urgent medical reasons then I think it's barbaric to do that to a little boy.

However, it is not analogous to fgm. An analogous procedure would be the removal of the entire head of the penis.

Also, I get tired of this question coming up when fgm is discussed. It's like some men cannot accept that it's a separate sodding issue. It derails the discussion.

And it happens all the time:

Domestic violence "but women can be abusers too!" Yes they can, but now you've derailed the conversation.
Fgm: but what about my penis?!...

See what I mean? It's like we can't have a conversation about a female issue without a "but what about the menz..?" Whine.

Incidentally, foreskins used to be the main source of human fibroblasts for cell cultures smile

AnyFucker Thu 26-Nov-15 21:26:13

^^ educate yourself

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