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AIBU to be so cross with new work!

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Fizzielove Tue 24-Nov-15 20:04:48

So interviewed for a job and due to circumstances they want me to start the next day. Okay bit short notice but hey I want the job. I understand that I will be needed to travel occasionally, that's okay too. Fast forward to being in the office. I discover there is no flexibility in working hours ( unheard of in IT!!) can't work from home, travel time is during my time, ie not during business hours as I'm expected to be on client site, and I don't get my time back nor paid for! This was not made clear at the interview and any other company has either paid or given time off in lieu!! I was bullied by the boss into traveling today just before I go on holiday on Thursday! I have so much to do to organise for 4 people going abroad! So I arrive on client site to discover that the client isn't going to be there today!! Grrrr I am seriously fuming! Also found out that you can't take any annual leave until you actually have worked the time and accrued it!! So tomorrow I am going in with a resignation letter to give the boss if he does not agree to allow me time off in lieu of my travel time! And I'm not talking just an hour or 2! Today I have been on the go since 5.30 and won't get home until 10! AIBU to think he needs me more than I need him (the boss) !! I have savings set aside so we will be fine until something else comes along!!

Beeswax2017 Tue 24-Nov-15 20:08:16

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BikeRunSki Tue 24-Nov-15 20:09:48

Did you not see the terms and conditions before you accepted the job?

I think it's law now - very recently - that you get paid time for travelling to/from your first and last appts.

OpenDoorAsshole Tue 24-Nov-15 20:09:56

I wouldnt even bother with the resignation letter. It would be a waste of ink and effort.

Just dont go back, ride out the festive season and start 2016 with a new focus on job hunting.

BikeRunSki Tue 24-Nov-15 20:11:24

does this help?

PresidentUnderwood Tue 24-Nov-15 20:12:21

Resign by email stating your reasons for not continuing with contract.

Then learn how to post using paragraphs and less exclamation marks smile

Roomba Tue 24-Nov-15 20:25:09

Fewer exclamation marks wink

RunRabbitRunRabbit Tue 24-Nov-15 20:30:55

They are bad employers.

I bet you'll check the terms and conditions a bit better next time though won't you?

redbinneo Tue 24-Nov-15 20:33:28

It's usual to mention pre-arranged holidays at interview. I don't get the bit about not taking annual leave until you have accrued it, that would mean working 6 months of the year before being able to take a fortnight off. That doesn't happen anywhere that I know about.

Shakey15000 Tue 24-Nov-15 20:37:17

By the by, but is it an agency job?

Sadly a tonne of workplaces/contracts are utter shit nowadays. Terrible T+C's in many of them. It's certainly an "employers market" now.

And some people whinge about workers going on strike to improve conditions. angry

BikeRunSki Tue 24-Nov-15 20:46:18

The accrued leave thing is fairly normal in my experience - I have been in my job 11 years so I may be out of date, but my sister started s new job in Sept and only gets 4 days at Christmas.

Hemlockinthegarden Tue 24-Nov-15 20:46:25

How long have you actually been working for them?

If its only a day or so, just don't go back.

honestpointofview Tue 24-Nov-15 20:48:14

BikeRunSki - just to clarify the European court of justice found that for workers without a fixed base the first and last appointment counts toward working time, for the purpose of ensuring employees do not work too many hours. They did not rule that this means you have to be paid for that time and in fact said whether it should be paid is a matter for each country. Further the national Minimum wage prvsions expressly excludes travel time between home and places of work from the minimum wage.

Ellypoo Tue 24-Nov-15 20:48:11

That totally depends on the sector Shakey - in our line of work, it is very much an employees market.

confusedandemployed Tue 24-Nov-15 20:49:37

The time thing is illegal now.

Just don't go back. They sound horrific.

Fizzielove Tue 24-Nov-15 20:53:04

My apologies for the HUGE post with no paragraphs! I really went off on a rant and got carried away!

I think I will have a "chat" with the boss and see what the outcome is. If it's not to my liking I'll hand over my resignation and not go back.

Shutthatdoor Tue 24-Nov-15 20:55:32

Yes YABU.

No flexible working is not unheard of in IT and doesn't get it.

I don't understand why you didn't tell them about your holiday or ask about flexible time before you even started.

Booyaka Tue 24-Nov-15 20:55:11

I think anywhere they want you to start the next day is going to be dodgy. That smacks to me like they've already had one person walk out.

Fizzielove Tue 24-Nov-15 20:56:49

I was told by the recruitment agency that there would be flexibility. I DID tell them about my holiday , they just don't care !

Shutthatdoor Tue 24-Nov-15 20:56:34

*should read my DBro works in the sector and doesn't get it.

Fizzielove Tue 24-Nov-15 20:59:03

What part of the sector does he work in. I have NEVER in 20 years worked anywhere that didn't have a policy of core hours and total contract hours

Nottodaythankyouorever Tue 24-Nov-15 20:59:27

I DID tell them about my holiday , they just don't care !

Why should they 'care' What is it you actually want them to do?

If you have only just started there and haven't even been there long enough to accrue holiday I can understand that it wouldn't be paid tbh.

Viviennemary Tue 24-Nov-15 21:00:01

I think if you want holidays just after you start you need to have mentioned this at interview. And working from home isn't the norm but has to be by agreement. The travel thing does sound unfair though. It's usually a red flag if they want you to start the next day. IMHO. And flexibility in working hours is usually by agreement and not a foregone conclusion. Sounds as if they're not very good employers and don't blame you for wanting to resign.

PlumpFiction Tue 24-Nov-15 21:21:38

The holiday accrual thing relates to the first year of employment - there's no automatic legal right to take holiday before accruing it in your first year (but your employer may let you).
I would've expected all these details to be laid out in the contract. If you haven't signed the contract yet, you can make the decision as to whether you will negotiate on the terms or just walk away from this job. You don't owe them anything.

scarlets Tue 24-Nov-15 21:33:14

It sounds shambolic. The agency just wants commission, so threw you at them without checking the fit. Have a chat with your immediate boss and if it's not the job for you, explain why and leave amicably.

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