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Daddy006 Tue 17-Nov-15 21:16:26

My darling wife (can I say DW?) has a bro in law who illegally downloads films. We live in a flat and need storage space for DD's toys. I have taken all the Dvds out of the cupboard and put them in the loft. I've asked DW if her bro in law can copy our dvd films onto a hard drive but she said he will use his illegally downloaded films to do that. Your thoughts pls?

LetThereBeCupcakes Tue 17-Nov-15 21:20:29

I wouldn't but I'm a goody two shoes!

If space is an issue can you take the dvds out of the cases and store in ring binders with dvd inserts instead?

Seeyounearertime Tue 17-Nov-15 21:20:36

I don't agree with piracy, never have and never will.
I see it as a crime that's all to easily overlooked, it does hurt people's livelihoods and it does, in some cases, fund bad people.
But that's just me, other people don't care and that's up to them. grin

CreepingDogFart Tue 17-Nov-15 21:21:39

This is a problem where there doesn't need to be one. Either watch the DVDs or don't.

Krampus Tue 17-Nov-15 21:23:03

You could copy DVDs onto a hard drive, no bro inlaws need to be harmed in the making.

I'm not sure how bro inlaw will use illegally downloaded films to copy your DVDs into a hard drive, that is wierd. Do you mean put his illegal copies onto your hard drive instead of copying your dvds?

OnTheEdgeToday Tue 17-Nov-15 21:23:41

Its not a crime to have a copy when you own the original.

I have downloaded before. Now i don see the point as i have an android box that i purchased from amazon with access to movies still in the cinema now. Surely, if that was illegal they wouldnt be able to sell?

NewLife4Me Tue 17-Nov-15 21:24:15

totally agree with the above.
It's the same with music too.
Some people in the business are just about being paid through sales, viewings, having in the past been paid a very small one off fee compared to how much the item actually makes.
To deny a person their wage, stinks.

NoArmaniNoPunani Tue 17-Nov-15 21:24:27

Copying DVDs that you already own is not illegal.

pinotblush Tue 17-Nov-15 21:25:43

Blimey, how many dvd's do you have? why not just get netflix?

What do you mean by his illegally downloaded films to do that? You've asked him to download your films.

GunningforISIS Tue 17-Nov-15 21:27:55

When in Afghanistan, I always objected to those buying dodgy DVDs, given that there is a tension between fighting terrorism during the day and funding it by night.

OnTheEdgeToday Tue 17-Nov-15 21:28:29

Rip all of your dvds onto your computer, into an external hard drive. It would be less effort and hassle than having bil doing it. It would also be without any worries of anything being illegal

OnTheEdgeToday Tue 17-Nov-15 21:29:27

Just for the record - i never bought pirate dvds. I just downloaded them from the websites the pirate sellers got them from and watched them for myself. I never sold them.

pinotblush Tue 17-Nov-15 21:30:24

I never bought them coz they were shit grin

Bubbletree4 Tue 17-Nov-15 21:30:28

However many DVDs do you have? Choose the ones you really like and charity shop the rest. Remove the problem. I cannot imagine having such a lot of DVDs that they took up more than a few inches of space.

No, I'd not involve BIL.

Krampus Tue 17-Nov-15 21:31:40

I copied all our DVDs and CDs onto a nas. It was a long term project but it got done, we then sold them to one of those companies.

AnchorDownDeepBreath Tue 17-Nov-15 21:32:07

It's actually much more nuanced, legally, than just to say that you are allowed a copy.

You are allowed to create a digital copy of content that you hold. So if you create the back-up of your disc, that is fine. It is illegal to download a copy of a film - that isn't a back up of your disc, even if it's exactly the same. Uploading a film is also illegal, as it is a crime to distribute copyrighted content.

UK law is a bit grey here, because nobody (as far as I can see) has ever taken this to trial and argued that they did have a physical copy, but downloaded another. They usually settle before that point. That may be because court is expensive, or because their legal counsel advised that it isn't a strong argument.

It's simpler in the US, where the law explicitly states that downloading and uploading motion pictures or any other copyrighted material is illegal, and that there is no special provisions for situations where you already own a copy.

The three countries where this isn't illegal, and that have no international agreements, are San Marino, Turkmenistan and Eritrea.

It's unlikely that you'd get caught or tried for this unless your ISP reported you, but it is against the law. You could always test the argument in a UK court so that we all know where we stand!

TimeToMuskUp Tue 17-Nov-15 21:33:14

I don't. DH knows a man who offers him stuff that's just been released in cinemas but I always refuse to watch them. I love going to the cinema and I don't want my DCs growing up thinking it's ok to break those kinds of laws simply because it's available. It's still a bit wrong and something I'm not happy with.

Krampus Tue 17-Nov-15 21:33:51

We had over a 100 DVDs Bubble.

ICantSpellNoffink Tue 17-Nov-15 21:35:18

I don't illegally download things but if you already own the DVDs then it doesn't seem half as bad.

pinotblush Tue 17-Nov-15 21:38:08

Just do what another poster said. Throw away all the ones you don't watch (they're worth pennies these days anyway) and keep the few that you might again.

As for illegally downloading. Not sure I really care, there are worse crimes out there at the moment.

Daddy006 Tue 17-Nov-15 21:39:44

Krampus, yes I do mean using bil's illegally downloaded versions rather than our Dvds. Even if he told us he used our Dvds....

OnTheEdgeToday Tue 17-Nov-15 21:43:38

If he already has the downloaded version on his computer, it will take all of 5 seconds. If he has to rip the dvd to his computer it will take 5 minutes minimum.

Seeyounearertime Tue 17-Nov-15 21:44:22

Get Netflix and Nowtv. smile
That's what we watch and we love them.

whois Tue 17-Nov-15 22:05:23

I believe it is not illegal to own a copy of you have the actual DVD?

I would not find it morally wrong if you watched illegally downloaded copies of films you actually already own a copy of.

GunningforISIS Tue 17-Nov-15 22:09:28

"As for illegally downloading. Not sure I really care, there are worse crimes out there at the moment."

Yes. Murder is worse than rape or theft.

Does this mean these are no longer wrong?


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