To think my neighbours should STFU?

[elementofsurprise]

I posted a few months ago about them playing very loud, very fast repetitive music. They have stopped that, on the whole, (after repeated warnings from LL) but everything else they do is ridiculously loud.

They sound like they are wearing clogs, and stomp around the flat (upstairs from me). They also slam doors, especially the front door, and both this and the stomping is enough to make the walls of my flat shake. They only have two children, yet often/almost everyday have hordes of other children, running around screaming and jumping off furniture from early until 11pm ish. The door slamming plus thumping up and down the stairs is very frequent. I'm really strugging to get my work done, it seems impossibe to get away from the noise in any part of my flat. So as not to drip feed, I'm disabled and struggle to get out, this is affecting me due to not being able to relax too (MH issues).

For some reason they also have a load of giggling teenage girls (their own children are 7 and 3) and a series of older men visiting, causing my friend to suggest they are running a brothel, though I thought that was a bit far-fetched (?) The girls sometimes knock on my door by mistake (it's a maisonette arrangement). They then look confused, giggle and run off. Not sure what to make of that.

They had the cheek to move another, very loud, family in for a month or so, who they claimed were "just visiting" but stayed until my LL offered them another property. I suspect they have done the same again, judging by the hordes of people they seem to have around at breakfast. And the insane amout of rubbish they produce...

They also like to gather in front of the properties, a couple of feet from my bedroom window, having VERY LOUD CONVERSATIONS. Now, I like the neighbourliness of the gathering, but the volume takes the piss! Incredibly, in today's pissing rain/strong wind they still stood there yelling at each other. I had hoped this would stop in winter!

Amongst other utterly inconsiderate acts, they recently filled my wheelie bin (as well as theirs) with old carpet and bits of laminate, so I couldn't use it. As an aside AIBU, would I have been unreasonable to tip it out in the back lane and call the council on them for fly-tipping? I didn't, but am tempted next time...

Plus AIBU to wonder about brothel suggestion?

Plus any ideas (have contacted council re. noise)? Silly entertaining ones welcome too...

Needless to say I have tried asking nicely. I just feel like I've turned into a grumpy old spinster but they are being too loud, aren't they?

Should add I have lived here several years, no issue with previous neighbours, who also had children, plus lodgers.

[SweetAdeline]

So you have the same landlord? If you do I'd be leaning on your landlord to not renew their tenancy (at a minimum). Presumably you are a more valuable tenant than they are as he/she will struggle to keep anyone in your flat long term if things remain as they are.

[pinotblush]

Are you in social housing OP?

[janethegirl2]

I'd look for alternative accommodation as it seems your landlord doesn't care.

[elementofsurprise]

Adeline I suspect they would just move some more of their rowdy friends into my flat... dunno though, LL seems to think I'm his best tenant (ie. I pay rent on time and don't wreck the place, I think). But I'm sure they pay more than me and flat was empty for a bit before, so they are "worth" more than me to LL...

I also pay below market rent so can't move easily - I wouldn't be able to afford another flat, unless council/HA, which are now like hens teeth for 1 beds. (This is a 2 bed but cheaper due to supply/demand...) LL actually reduced rent when I started looking for a social property before.

I've been here years and decorated the place etc - horrible, horrible people wrecking it. They've just paid for new flooring in theirs so clearly planning to be here a while. I'm really struggling and almost giving up on life tbh, am posting in mental health. But certainly can't cope with moving. Not sure if I'm making sense here. These people are horrible.

[elementofsurprise]

Having a rant has helped though
Maybe some ear defenders...
Will ring council again, apparently they are supposed to send someone round, but I rang late on a Friday.

[Atenco]

Sorry, no helpful advice but if there is no other better solution, you should definitely look into moving, even if you have to find some other income to make up the difference. I know very little about your situation, so please excuse me if that is not realistic, but really this problem sounds intolerable

[LeaLeander]

No advice but offering you the utmost sympathy! What a nightmare for you!

[sleeponeday]

Is their landlord also your landlord?

I think he or she is your answer. They won't want a nightmare tenant either - make a diary of the events and then give it to the landlord. Explain that it's horrendous for you and would be anyone.

I'm so sorry. It sounds dreadful.

[MargoReadbetter]

Awful for you. I've been the downstairs neighbour of loud students (& ravers!), it's horrible. I don't think you can educate them all at this stage and I'd look into moving. What helped us at the time was calling the LL at 3-4 am and getting them to listen on the phone to the noises from upstairs.