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To think that this is out of order, and there's no shame in being cis

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JellyKnockers Tue 17-Nov-15 20:15:14

NC as potentially outing.

DD is 17 and gay. She's very active in local LGBT societies and organisations and has campaigned against homophobic bullying in her school. Today she received this email from one of the organisations she's involved with, publicising an event for trans writers.

What's wrong with being cis ffs?! DD has herself been on the receiving end of abuse in the past for being 'transphobic', simply because she's challenged the anti cis opinion which she encounters regularly. This despite the fact that she campaigns for equality and has done since she came out aged 14. She's seriously considering giving up the work she does with various groups because of this attitude, which is all too common. She's even received death threats on Twitter because she's 'evil' enough to think that equality should be just that, and everyone should simply respect everyone else.

I'm livid, she's livid, are we BU?

annielouise Tue 17-Nov-15 20:16:16

What is cis?

Fluffyears Tue 17-Nov-15 20:17:21

Sorry I don't understand, cis?

laffymeal Tue 17-Nov-15 20:17:44

Please clarify what cis is.

KeepOnMoving1 Tue 17-Nov-15 20:17:55

Cis?

WorldsBiggestGrotbag Tue 17-Nov-15 20:18:00

I don't know what cis is confused

drinkyourmilk Tue 17-Nov-15 20:18:28

Cis means cisgender: to be heterosexual and happy with your gender assigned at birth

BubsandMoo Tue 17-Nov-15 20:18:29

Goodness no, YANBU at all. That is ridiculously offensive. Does she feel confident to raise it with the organisation?

Your daughter sounds like an incredible young woman, by the way.

0verNow Tue 17-Nov-15 20:18:30

YANBU

StealthPolarBear Tue 17-Nov-15 20:18:52

Cis is not trans I think

laffymeal Tue 17-Nov-15 20:18:46

...a pattern is forming

Hamishandthefoxes Tue 17-Nov-15 20:20:01

CIs means identifying as the same gender as you appear to be. I appear to be a woman (breast, small etc). I also believe I am a woman.

It is as opposed to transgender when identity and genitals don't match.

Yanbu op, but it seems pretty typical

SumThucker Tue 17-Nov-15 20:20:42

'Cis' makes me want to bang my head off a brick wall after seeing it so many times on here.

Snossidge Tue 17-Nov-15 20:20:28

drink - cis means not trans, it's not about sexuality.

Synyster Tue 17-Nov-15 20:21:00

Sowhat is cis

JellyKnockers Tue 17-Nov-15 20:21:09

Sorry - drinkyourmilk defined cis perfectly smile

maxxytoe Tue 17-Nov-15 20:21:42

Tell her to tell them to fuck off

Waltermittythesequel Tue 17-Nov-15 20:21:42

I refuse to acknowledge the definition of a woman as being cis. Therefore, I wouldn't be offended.

KeepOnMoving1 Tue 17-Nov-15 20:21:46

Another day, another new term, something new to be offended by.

laffymeal Tue 17-Nov-15 20:21:50

Genuinely never heard of it before.

comfortblankie Tue 17-Nov-15 20:22:41

The point of campaigning against any kind of "-ism" should be equality - not superiority, so no, YANBU

MooPointCowsOpinion Tue 17-Nov-15 20:22:32

Cis means gender binary, straight... As opposed to gender fluid or transsexual.

It's potentially offensive that us 'cis' people are considered boring for our unoriginal lifestyles? Hard to phrase that without sounding like a dick.

I'm fine with being called cis and I'm fine with not being considered interesting for that. I think the LGBTQ folks are just expressing their confidence in themselves by being a bit bolshy in this instance, and I think they're entitled to be sometimes, just like anyone else.

GoneAndDone Tue 17-Nov-15 20:23:05

It seems odd.

But I really hate the word cis and don't feel anyone (trans or not) has the right to apply that ridiculous term to me. I'm a woman, not "cis woman".

Ubik1 Tue 17-Nov-15 20:23:53

I think the implication is that all the trans men and women are cool and hip and intense and self obsessed challenging.

Cis people are boring and square.

Teenagers are often awful - hopefully they will grow up soon.

theycallmemellojello Tue 17-Nov-15 20:23:47

Oh ffs. Yes, it's acceptable to make jokes about men where it's not acceptable to make jokes about women. Same with white people vs members of other ethnic minorities, straight people vs gay people, rich people vs poor people and, YES! cis people vs trans people.

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