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Close Our Borders - Share if you agree

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Katiekatiekatie Tue 17-Nov-15 09:48:25

It's giving me the rage to see this on fb and Twitter I totally disagree, wtf have I got friends who think this is ok? Grrrr

Cardbordeaux Tue 17-Nov-15 09:50:27

I think a lot of people are scared and worried, and that this often leads to kneejerk reactions.

AliceScarlett Tue 17-Nov-15 09:52:47

People are stupid.

PurpleDaisies Tue 17-Nov-15 09:53:30

I'm defriending anyone that shares stuff like that.

DannyFishcharge Tue 17-Nov-15 09:54:41

I've seen so much of this bollocks too.

Katiekatiekatie Tue 17-Nov-15 09:55:25

Yeah I should do but they are friends shock should I bother to try & reason?

SoupDragon Tue 17-Nov-15 09:56:03

TBH, with the information that one of the Paris perpetrators came in as a Syrian refugee with false papers, I did have a moment of "eek!" when the news said a plane load of refugees was due to land in Glasgow today.

purits Tue 17-Nov-15 09:56:49

confused But we aren't part of Sehengen.

GoneAndDone Tue 17-Nov-15 09:56:50

My Facebook doesn't really have that as most of my friends are lefty liberals...

But I called my mum (who lives in another European country, not the UK) yesterday and she said we should put all the migrants on Ryanair flights back to where they came from and then close European borders. hmm

patterkiller Tue 17-Nov-15 10:00:01

But the majority of the Paris terrorists were home grown weren't they?

People who think 'not letting anyone in' will stop terrorists are stupid. Radicalism is happening in our cities and with the internet there is access wherever you are. Scary.

EmmaGellerGreen Tue 17-Nov-15 10:00:20

I do wonder what "close our borders" means? Could we not get out? Or back in? Mind boggling.

Close our borders so we don't export people like Mohammed Emwazi (Jihadi John) to countries like Syria?

PurpleDaisies Tue 17-Nov-15 10:02:54

You could try pm ing close friends if they're sharing that sort of rubbish. If you really want to stay Facebook friends you can hide individual posts.

Mine were mostly people I knew from school who I hadn't seen in years so it wasn't really a loss.

Pollyputhtekettleon Tue 17-Nov-15 10:03:18

So one terrorist entered the country as a refugee. Maybe they should be focusing on where the other 7 came from. There are so many ways for people to enter a country if they are determined. People freaking out about 1 (or probably more that have not been found yet) using the shitty and far less comfortable route of the refugees are not big thinkers.

AngelSparks Tue 17-Nov-15 10:03:40

I commented on one of these "well thats going to stuff anyone on holiday up if they cant get back in?"

Degustibusnonestdisputandem Tue 17-Nov-15 10:04:11

What a load of bollocks. they're pretty damned closed anyway!

Pollyputhtekettleon Tue 17-Nov-15 10:04:14

A load of terrorists entered countries by airplane.....maybe we should ban all airplanes......

SoupDragon Tue 17-Nov-15 10:05:34

People who think 'not letting anyone in' will stop terrorists are stupid.

Absolutely.

Whilst I did have that "eek" moment, I'm not so stupid as to think that there aren't already terrorists here and that that 99.9% of refugees arriving are just people in desperate need of help and a safe place to live.

BeyondThirty Tue 17-Nov-15 10:05:52

I'm almost tempted to start a "turn off the internet in europe" counter-petition!

EmGee Tue 17-Nov-15 10:09:49

I think that Europe should bring back border controls NOT close our borders.

LaContessaDiPlump Tue 17-Nov-15 10:16:15

A friend of mine, a woman I actually quite like, shared this. I was quite upset.

I think her position comes from a place of fear and wanting to protect her children. I understand that she thinks this can best be done by not letting in potentially 'unsafe' people. The problem is:

- radicalised people are already here. Closing the border will not stop that.

- once the border is closed, those people who desperately need help will be shut out. How can we knowingly turn away from people who are begging for our help? It's unconscionable.

- those people who have been shut out will (almost inevitably) be stuck between the emotions of desperately wanting us to help them and desperate fury at us for not helping them. If we reject them, they can only go one way: back. And they'll be a hell of a lot less well-inclined towards the west than they were before. We will effectively be helping ISIS to recruit if we fail to treat refugees as human beings.

- British Muslims will have noticed the current atmosphere of fear (obviously) and in some places will be frozen out by their non-Muslim neighbours as a result of the recent attacks. That alienation will only serve to increase the likelihood of radicalisation IMO.

Closing the borders would be insane. It would serve no purpose. We should help those who need help just because it's right to do so. However, there are a lot of logical reasons why it would be better for us to do so in any case.

Rant over blush

BaronessEllaSaturday Tue 17-Nov-15 10:17:21

Europe does still have border controls from outside it is only within that Sehengen applies.

I'm also using it to delete people from facebook, it's making me look at certain people differently.

GiddyOnZackHunt Tue 17-Nov-15 10:18:26

Yanbu.
We aren't part of Schengen to start with and we seem to be growing our own terrorists anyway.

Elendon Tue 17-Nov-15 10:19:02

One of the terrorists entered the country pretending to be a refugee. How insulting to that little boy who was washed up dead on the beach.

GruntledOne Tue 17-Nov-15 10:20:55

Perhaps we need to start a new one - "Don't close our borders, it's a hysterical knee-jerk reaction which would achieve nothing, share if you agree". If we get unfriended as a result, it could only be a bonus.

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