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to think that the male dancers on Strictly..

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RagamuffinAndFidget Wed 21-Oct-15 11:49:21

..have to put up with quite a lot of low-level harassment from the presenters? From Claudia in particular. One of the new dancers, Gleb, is constantly subjected to 'jokes' of a vaguely sexual nature - lots of references to his body and taking his shirt off, and a couple of the returning dancers have to put up with the same thing too. Perhaps I'm just reading too much into it but I think if it was male presenters making those kinds of remarks about the female dancers I think a lot more people would be complaining.

pearpotter Wed 21-Oct-15 11:52:06

Yes I agree, makes me cringe and they should stop it.

101handbags Wed 21-Oct-15 11:52:14

YADNBU - I've said the same thing to my DP many times. Then again, nobody forced Gleb to take his shirt off the other night.

Lottapianos Wed 21-Oct-15 11:52:18

Yes, I think it is a bit excessive OP. I would be really uncomfortable if a male presenter was constantly leching over the female dancers boobs and legs.

Katie2001 Wed 21-Oct-15 11:53:28

I am conflicted on this one, although I know it is wrong, I quite enjoyed Gleb taking his shirt off.

Thurlow Wed 21-Oct-15 11:55:06

I agree. We were just having this conversation at work, actually.

There's something happening in general over the past few years where it's apparently fine and amusing and all very tongue in cheek to make the kind of comments about men and their bodies that would be considered way OTT if they were made about women's bodies.

I don't mind it particularly - I get the impression Gleb is in on the joke and fine with it - but it is borderline at the moment.

WorraLiberty Wed 21-Oct-15 11:55:38

I rarely watch it, but I saw it the other week and I must admit I thought Claudia came across as a bit creepy, so YANBU.

Thurlow Wed 21-Oct-15 11:57:12

Katie, I know - half of me is thinking "ew, that's all a bit unreasonable" and the other half of me is thinking, "well, if it was Pasha taking his shirt off..." blush grin

RagamuffinAndFidget Wed 21-Oct-15 11:58:19

101handbags you're right re Gleb taking his shirt off.. I wonder how much choice they have about whether or not to go along with this stuff though.

pearpotter Wed 21-Oct-15 12:25:00

Gleb seems to love the attention and plays up to it, not sure some of the others do. But it doesn't really matter, I agree with the OP.

RagamuffinAndFidget Wed 21-Oct-15 12:26:43

Maybe Gleb hasn't been there long enough to get sick of it yet? wink Some of the other dancers seem to be laughing with gritted teeth a lot of the time..

It just makes me feel quite uncomfortable, so it's good to know I'm not alone in this!

DawnOfTheDoggers Wed 21-Oct-15 12:33:19

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PuppyMonkey Wed 21-Oct-15 12:50:19

Yeah Gleb looked really uncomfortable with it. hmm

I think after all the years women had of this sort of thing from male TV presenters, it's amusing to see two female presenters on prime time TV giving it back. grin

Taking ownership - isn't that what they call this type of thing?

Imchangingmyname Wed 21-Oct-15 13:11:44

I agree, if that were Len doing and saying those things to Ola, there would be an absolute uproar, whether she was playing up to it or not.
There seems to be one rule for women and another for men. Makes me worry for my DS tbh.

Rebecca2014 Wed 21-Oct-15 13:27:40

"Makes me worry for my DS!!" LOL. Your son as a man is still very much privileged compared to women so stop being silly.

Personally I think its nice to see men being leered at the way women constantly are in the media. Gleb seemed to enjoy it, he even took his shirt off willingly!

SurferJet Wed 21-Oct-15 13:29:56

Yanbu - I find Claudia really creepy.

DrGoogleWillSeeYouNow Wed 21-Oct-15 13:31:49

YANBU - Claudia in particular has crossed the line into creepy perv territory.

FatherReboolaConundrum Wed 21-Oct-15 13:33:22

I very much doubt that Gleb has a problem with this, at least if his range of dance themed underwear is anything to go by.

pudcat Wed 21-Oct-15 13:41:22

I am so pleased others think like this - I wondered if I was being a fuddy duddy. I really cringe when Darcy Bussell starts getting hot under the collar and leering over the male dancers. And why do dances have to be sexy? I now record the programme and just watch the dancing.

RagamuffinAndFidget Wed 21-Oct-15 13:47:47

Father So because a man has an underwear range that makes him fair game for crass comments? Would you apply the same logic to Elle Macpherson or any of the other beautiful women who have released underwear ranges?

I fail to see why we are allowed to be irritated by these kinds of comments when they're directed at women, yet it's fine when it's directed at men because 'we've put up with it for a long time'. Surely it's not OK for anyone and we should just stop it altogether?

RagamuffinAndFidget Wed 21-Oct-15 13:48:37

Imchanging I couldn't imagine Len behaving like that! Bruno, on the other hand....

stealthsquiggle Wed 21-Oct-15 13:48:56

It really annoys me. I have taught my DS that a rough test of whether something is OK is what the reaction would be if it were reversed (generally in the context of derogatory remarks about girls). There are so many comments on Strictly which would fail that test. It's depressing, not "refreshing", and certainly not entertaining.

KitZacJak Wed 21-Oct-15 14:13:58

I noticed that too. It is strange that when a woman says something innuendo -ey about a man it is accepted but if a man said the same to a women he would be a sleezy pervert.

This happens in so many areas of life now. For example, my son is 11 and a friend has already commented in a bit of a jokey (pervy) way about going out with him and his friends when he is older!!! Imagine if a man in his forties said that about an 11 year old girl!!

ZoeTurtle Wed 21-Oct-15 14:17:20

KitZacJak what makes you think it's okay for your friends to do that? It isn't. You do know you don't need other people to tell them it's unacceptable? confused

FatherReboolaConundrum Wed 21-Oct-15 14:20:40

I meant that I don't get the impression he has a problem with being shirtless in front of a camera. Given the completely bizarre 'Gleb special' move he pulled the other week I doubt he has a problem with suggestive content in general, but maybe he likes dreaming up routines where he appears to be shagging his partner on the studio floor but is actually deeply embarrassed by female presenters making comments about how sexy he is.

It's not just comments directed at male pros by female presenters and judges, though - everyone kept banging on about Katie Derham's gorgeous legs at the start of this series, and normally Craig and Bruno have an eye for one or two of the male celebs, who often play up to it (Gavin Henson kissing Bruno, Ben Cohen getting Bruno in a clinch). There have been times when Len has seemed a bit of a lech with some of the female celebs, but never towards the female pros.

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