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To have zero sympathy for this woman

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wasonthelist Fri 16-Oct-15 13:25:27

The tearful woman on BBC Question Time claims to have been a Tory voter. She's reaping what she sows.

hiddenhome2 Fri 16-Oct-15 13:28:52

Enjoy your gloat.

Hypotenuse Fri 16-Oct-15 13:29:19

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HaydeeofMonteCristo Fri 16-Oct-15 13:29:47

I feel sorry for her. It sounds like she's really struggling. Not everyone had the sense to vote labour. People were silly enough to trust the Tories and believe what they said. But I don't think that means they can never complain.

CultureSucksDownWords Fri 16-Oct-15 13:30:01

YABU. She has made a mistake of trusting a politician to stick to their promises, that's all. I have every sympathy for someone in her position who may well be struggling to pay essential bills in the near future. At the same time, I can suggest that she was unwise to believe David Cameron and the Conservative party promises, but that doesn't erode my sympathy for her.

Pyjamaramadrama Fri 16-Oct-15 13:30:58

I'd have never voted for them but they didn't disclose that they were going to make such a huge and abrupt cut to tax credits.

I sympathise with any working single parents about to lose thousands of pounds.

wasonthelist Fri 16-Oct-15 13:31:59

I'm not gloating, and I didn't vote Labour or Tory, but really and truly, what did she expect?

PurpleDaisies Fri 16-Oct-15 13:33:29

Regardless of your opinion on the tax credit policy, can't you find it in yourself to feel sorry for soneone who is clearly having a hard time? Yabu.

ConferencePear Fri 16-Oct-15 13:33:35

I feel sorry for her. The Tories promised to look after hard-working families (which she obviously is) and he didn't really mean it.

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark Fri 16-Oct-15 13:35:12

Who did you vote for? The Goadyfuckery Empathy Bypass party?

wasonthelist Fri 16-Oct-15 13:35:30

I didn't say she's not entitled to complain. I hope (but don't expect) that her words will prompt a change of heart, but really, what did she expect?

CultureSucksDownWords Fri 16-Oct-15 13:35:33

Perhaps she was expecting what was in the Conservative party's manifesto and election pledges to be stuck to? It might be naive to believe that that woudl be the case, but honestly, a lot of people who are not particularly clued up on politics would have done the same.

Crankycunt Fri 16-Oct-15 13:37:31

Yes yabu, instead of gloating and sounding like a cunt, why not say what can we do to prevent this in the future. Be the bigger person.

A lot of Labour reactions have been vile, and makes the left party voters sound like complete and utter dicks.

She voted at the time for the party she thought would give her children the best shot in life, DC all out lied about tax credits.

Instead of vilification of this woman, how about vilification of the Conservatives and the right wing media for lying.

How about getting conservative voters who have been screwed over to see that they have been lied to?

Pyjamaramadrama Fri 16-Oct-15 13:38:44

The Tories made a great case.

Single parents working but claiming tax credits don't see themselves as benefit scroungers but the Tories do I'm afraid.

littlegreen66 Fri 16-Oct-15 13:39:05

What did she expect? She expected Cameron to stick to his manifesto promises.

I have no idea why anyone would think that he would keep his promises, given his 2010 lies about the NHS, but he did promise not to cut tax credits.

She may have been foolish, but anyone in her circumstances, regardless of who they voted for, deserves compassion.

expatinscotland Fri 16-Oct-15 13:39:06

She was okay with other peoples' benefits being cut.

Scoobydoo8 Fri 16-Oct-15 13:40:05

It will feed the criticism that the BBC has a left wing bias.

jorahmormont Fri 16-Oct-15 13:40:26


We need to show people like her that they are welcome in the Labour party, not alienate them even more.

I'm not saying I feel sympathy for her - right now, my sympathies where politics is concerned are the thousands of young parents like me, working minimum wage jobs. We're having our tax credits cut massively... but the government doesn't see us as working hard enough to deserve the Living Wage, seeing as we're under 25. We're losing out massively.

wasonthelist Fri 16-Oct-15 13:41:05

I can understand Sir Bufton Tufton etc voting Tory, but I struggle to see why anyone who is finding it hard to make ends meet could ever imagjne any Tories care - no matter what they claim.

seagreengirl Fri 16-Oct-15 13:41:30

Of course YABU. Anybody with any humanity would feel compassion for someone in distress like that, whatever their politics.

Georgethesecond Fri 16-Oct-15 13:42:53

The woman rents though, so she may get some additional help from housing benefit.

multivac Fri 16-Oct-15 13:43:01

I have huge sympathy for her situation, and sense of betrayal.

Less so for her politics - she voted for the party she thought would be best for her, and her children, even though she knew that those less fortunate than her would be worse off as a result. Those promises - clearly made and amply demonstrated, weren't broken.

DrasticAction Fri 16-Oct-15 13:44:56

nice op hmm

I have sympathy for her, the tax credit cut was a shock. not part of pre election stuff.

You know like all the hideous shocking stuff Labour brought in, hiding behind the fox hunting fuss fiasco....

gamerchick Fri 16-Oct-15 13:47:35

How did anybody not have an inkling? The huge avalanche of propaganda blatantly said the twats were planning something big to hurt people.

wasonthelist Fri 16-Oct-15 13:48:07

Blimey - just for the record, I didn't villify the woman, just say I don't have sympathy - that's not the same thing.

Surely there's a point where people need to link up how they voted to what's happened?

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