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MsJamieFraser Mon 12-Oct-15 19:12:10

8 weeks ago ds (6.3years) was at the dentist, check up clear as have been his previous ones... (Well except one tooth, that was cracked and needed a white filling (fell of his bike) All weekend ds was complaining of a sore mouth, never though nothing of it as his big teeth are coming threw, baby teeth coming out) etc...

However it became obvious quite fast that he had toothache and I when I looked I could not believe the state of his mouth, abscess x 3 green puss, etc... Phoned 111 yesterday and they said it wasn't an emergency just keep him topped up with pain relief and get an apt today, which my MIL took him too, dentist phones me at work stating that he needs surgery to have 4 teeth removed, once the antibiotics have kicked in. She has said she has no idea why his teeth have went into rapid deterioration however said once the teeth have been removed then he will be fine.

When asking her why his teeth have deteriorated so badly she did not have any answers, I asked that we have a dental referral to get it investigated as clearly 8 weeks from perfectly healthy teeth, to blackened teeth needs investigated... She didn't answer. Said if I had any queries/questions to phone back later... I did and I'm still waiting on the phone call (this was at 12.30pm)

Ds diet is fish, meat, root veg, goats milk (he has a very limited diet) due to multiple allergens.

MsJamieFraser Mon 12-Oct-15 19:15:42

Sorry pressed too soon, he brushed his teeth with adult tooth past (oral b) and brushes them twice daily, with mouth wash (due to steroid usage) all of this has been recommended by the dentist. We are strict with sweets... Saturday's only and even then for ds, it's a dairy free chocolate bar.

Any dentist have any ideas, because frankly I'm worried sick and the dentist isn't giving me any definitive answers it even possibilities of what it can be.

SpendSpendSpend Mon 12-Oct-15 19:20:43

I would change dentist.

I ve no advice, but i would not be happy with this either

NotMeNotYouNotAnyone Mon 12-Oct-15 19:31:50

I would wait and see what the investigations say. It could be an underlying problem (hopefully nothing serious!) but it could be linked to the procedure he had done. Or a mixture of the two, my DM has TMJ which is often made worse by dental appointments. I would definitely want answers though as that's not normal at all!

LunchpackOfNotreDame Mon 12-Oct-15 19:35:45

I suffered a trauma to a tooth and it took 2 years for the full nature of the injury to show (needed root canal to save it) my understanding is trauma can take a long time to reveal itself with teeth so it may not be all the dentists fault.

Poor kid though!

maddening Mon 12-Oct-15 19:38:51

Teeth can "die" after a trauma - it possibly was a result of the bike incident.

maddening Mon 12-Oct-15 19:40:37

Ps the Dentist would get more UDAs (treatment points) towards their target for doing the treatment so doubt they would ignore any obvious issues.

MsJamieFraser Mon 12-Oct-15 19:41:12

We haven't got an referral yet.. That's why I asked for a call back , because she kept skipping over the questions I was asking her and being quite evasive.

he will get his appointment from the community dental services within 21 days... He's on antibiotics for 7 days quite strong ones also I think for his age (500mg)

He didn't have any procedure last check up, (it was the previous one) I can cope with the surgery, he's had more than any child should have, it's not knowing why in 8 weeks his teeth have deterioted so badly.

LunchpackOfNotreDame Mon 12-Oct-15 19:41:19

maddening that's what happened to my tooth only it was very slow painful protracted death!

MsJamieFraser Mon 12-Oct-15 19:47:04

One tooth could be the trauma, (as the tooth that be got the white filling in, is one of the black teeth, sad it doesn't explain the other 3 teeth, he needs 4 teeth taken at each sides of his mouth (so one lower, one upper, right, one lower and upper left)

I'm not blaming the dentist, I just don't feel like I am getting answers from her, I wish I wasn't at bloody work, and was their at the apt with him.

Because all I've had really is, that he needs antibiotics, then 4 teeth taken out, but no info until I get the appointment through from the community dental team.

LunchpackOfNotreDame Mon 12-Oct-15 19:49:42

He could have taken a heavier smack to the mouth than first thought.

It must be so frustrating not getting answers though. Is there a practice manager at the surgery you can speak to?

MsJamieFraser Mon 12-Oct-15 19:57:50

I hope so, but the surgery doesn't open until 9am and he's supposed to be on a school trip the moz, but I feel bad if we don't go as I will be one of the parent helpers, but then I don't know how he will be also. So il be playing it by ear I think.

I didn't even know about tooth trauma. I'm worried invade his diet plays apart in his teeth deterioration, but he gets his consultant 4 times a year and is a healthy and strong little boy (been on the 99th centile since he was 3 months old) growth and development always been fine also.

MsJamieFraser Mon 12-Oct-15 19:59:47

Sorry I'm on this bloody iPhone, il reply more coherently when on the laptop.

Queenbean Mon 12-Oct-15 20:16:02

That sounds absolutely awful, poor kid

MsJamieFraser Tue 13-Oct-15 06:56:25

We have had a nightmare night with him, nose bleeds, allergy attacks and toothache! Can only give him calpol as he is asthmatic and can't give ibrofen, hopefully with it ring day 2 of antibiotics they will have some effect today.

Senpai Tue 13-Oct-15 07:12:51

If it's on both sides and that severe 8 weeks later I doubt it's a food thing. Or anything other than a biological trigger.

I would get him checked out by a regular doctor as well to rule out any thing else that could be causing this.

MsJamieFraser Tue 13-Oct-15 07:25:55

I think even if he bathed his teeth in sugar he doesn't they would not be in this state of infection and tooth breakdown. I just want to know what is going on.

LIZS Tue 13-Oct-15 08:02:34

If he has an inhaler for his asthma does he rinse or brush straight after using it. Steroids can have a bad effect on gum health so once used it needs to be rinsed away asap.

Senpai Tue 13-Oct-15 08:14:33

LIZS Is that really true?

I had asthma in middle and high school and from that point on my teeth have been crap. I didn't help matters with copious amounts of sugar in college I wonder if it weakened them and made them more vulnerable to cavities.

MsJamieFraser Tue 13-Oct-15 08:19:17

LINS yes we use prescribed mouth wash, he can need his inhaler up to 15 times a day, and even then some doses are emergency doses (10 x 200g puffs) plus his brown inhaler (400g x 2 daily)

Roll on 9am where I can get some answers. hopefully.

LIZS Tue 13-Oct-15 08:19:37

According to my dentist who we have seen regularly for 20 + years, last few I have had an inhaler and she says she can tell.

LunchpackOfNotreDame Tue 13-Oct-15 20:09:56

How did you get on today OP?

I knew inhalers could cause oral thrush but not tooth decay. Every days a school day

verystressedmum Tue 13-Oct-15 20:28:01

Inhalers cause tooth decay! shock I've never heard this before. What do you do to prevent it?

LIZS Tue 13-Oct-15 20:31:13

As I understand it , they affect the gums not teeth themselves.

Mrsmorton Tue 13-Oct-15 20:34:24

Use a spacer to prevent the stuff landing in hour mouth. Rinse your mouth with water after use.
AFAIR it's the pH of the stuff that does the damage. Compared to sugar in the diet though, it truly is a gnat's piss in an ocean. 99.9% of decay is due to sugar in food and drink.

Spacers and rinsing are also good to prevent thrush so we should encourage that anyway.

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