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AIBU to think Kids Company was actually just an arrangement that mainly funded the lifestyles of a group of Camilla B's pals?

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LuluJakey1 Sun 11-Oct-15 09:02:14

Chauffeur paid £40,000 + and his two children at private schools paid for by KC. His sister CB's seamstress full-time and the lawyer -both roles paid for by KC

I just do not know how CB could honestly justify any of this behaviour and not see it is wrong.

dementedma Sun 11-Oct-15 09:06:44

Yeah, there have been a lot of threads about this and I fear more cans of worms to be opened...

WipsGlitter Sun 11-Oct-15 09:09:28

Is she appearing at a select committee? With Alan Yentob? I predict a car crash.

Cloppysow Sun 11-Oct-15 09:11:55

Was the seamstress on drugs?

evilcherub Sun 11-Oct-15 09:17:31

Yes. It looks like a big tax dodge. She and her "employees" probably thought nobody would ever investigate because "think of the children" etc.

JoySzasz Sun 11-Oct-15 09:23:04

I have to laugh at how some MN posters were all over her previously.

All taken in with the colourful clothes, and her articulate way of speaking...

I honestly wonder why?

I'm glad I am a sage.

Sallyhasleftthebuilding Sun 11-Oct-15 09:26:46

Isnt it a shame though? Will make people think twice to giving to a kids charity. They could have made a huge difference to a lot of kids.

OTheHugeManatee Sun 11-Oct-15 09:28:00

I think if it encourages people to look closely at what a charity is actually doing rather than all the emotive stuff in their marketing then that's probably for the best.

museumum Sun 11-Oct-15 09:29:28

It may have been but it was ALSO a series of really valuable centres run by very dedicated on the ground staff. It's them I feel for. All their hard work dragged through the mud and their reputation as youth workers badly damaged.

Salmotrutta Sun 11-Oct-15 09:29:29

When all this first broke as news I'd never heard of the woman or the charity but it all made very interesting reading.

Someone did link to an old thread where MNers were praising her to the skies and saying how wonderful she was but hindsight is a marvellous thing isn't it?

Salmotrutta Sun 11-Oct-15 09:31:37

And I agree museumum - there were probably a lot of genuinely caring people working for the chRity who had no idea what was going on with the money?

scarlets Sun 11-Oct-15 09:37:45

"I think if it encourages people to look closely at what a charity is actually doing rather than all the emotive stuff in their marketing then that's probably for the best."

I agree with this. It's important for charities to be accountable.

Intradental Sun 11-Oct-15 09:39:39

I think if it encourages people to look closely at what a charity is actually doing rather than all the emotive stuff in their marketing then that's probably for the best.

Definitely. It's weird how "charity" is used as a get-out clause from explanation. Not everything every charity does it good or useful, even if they intend it to be, and even when they are transparent about their workings.

suzannecaravaggio Sun 11-Oct-15 09:43:21

it was ALSO a series of really valuable centres run by very dedicated on the ground staff

and therefore the perfect front for a tax dodge / fiddle

cleaty Sun 11-Oct-15 09:45:37

What happened here was that the normal rules were suspended. If you get grants from Government you have to give lots of information and stats to them as a result. In Kids Company case they didn't, and Cameron himself over ruled the Civil Servants who wanted to stop the grants.

This is about normal rules not applying if you have the right connections.

Toughasoldboots Sun 11-Oct-15 09:49:28

But on the old thread linked to, there were more than a couple of posters who felt unhappy with the way that the charity was run and it was interesting to see how they were shouted down and called all sorts of things.
Much like the dax thread and the more recent money raising one for the baby born abroad.

PaulAnkaTheDog Sun 11-Oct-15 09:49:29

When the stuff started coming out about KC I was shocked at how many people seemed to think the sun shined out her arse. Was listening to Any Questions one day and was gobsmacked at the quick responses by people to shoot down any attempt at questioning her behaviour. They were calling her a saint ffs! I mean, come on!

Toughasoldboots Sun 11-Oct-15 09:50:10

And yes, the civil servants had tried to do the right thing and were walked over.

QuiteLikely5 Sun 11-Oct-15 09:52:43

Ok there is only talk of her helping her driver. That company did lots of great work for others. Lots and lots but nobody here is talking about it.

PaulAnkaTheDog Sun 11-Oct-15 09:56:32

Quite Likely a lot of people who were 'helped' by the charity would beg to differ.

cleaty Sun 11-Oct-15 09:56:55

A sign that a charity might have issues, is when it is not working with other charities. Charities in their field tend to know who is delivering, and who is not, and are often ken to work in partnership with those who do deliver.

QuestioningStuff Sun 11-Oct-15 10:04:51

Quite I don't think anybody is denying that. But the money that went towards funding CB and her friends' lavish lifestyles could have and should have gone to helping even more under privileged children. That is what people, rightly, are so angry about. It's immoral and disgusting.

I have a few Facebook friends who have works for KC before and they are so determined to defend it. Including when the sexual abuse allegations were made. If I worked somewhere and allegations like that were made I'd never rant on Facebook that it was a set up and it NEVER could have happened because you never know? It's like a weird cult.

Toughasoldboots Sun 11-Oct-15 10:05:29

I thought it was reported yesterday that over 700k had been paid tax and NI free to people registered as 'clients'? Except that they weren't clients, they were working for the charity, one was educated at Oxford and the payment was registered as money to 'a vulnerable client'.

Toughasoldboots Sun 11-Oct-15 10:06:48

Charity gave hundreds of thousands of pounds tax-free to employees
Document shows 25 clients were given £769,150 between them over 2014
One person is a 26-year-old woman who attended Oxford University
The revelation comes as chief executive faces grilling by MPs

wowfudge Sun 11-Oct-15 10:11:29

Yes, that's right Tough. Totally immoral and I think it demonstrates the charity thought it was above the law. I guess if you've been getting away with it for years, no questions asked, it becomes the norm. Absolutely stinks though and if those people who were senior managers and trustees claim not to have know, an appalling failure of governance. I'm looking forward to seeing what they have to say before the committee.

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