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AIBU to think that Trident is no longer relevant to modern warfare & that the £100bn (estimated) cost would be far better spent helping the NHS, the refugee/migrant crisis and many other issues?

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DarthVadersTailor Tue 08-Sep-15 10:52:49

I just don't see why we need Trident these days and can't help but think the money would be better spent elsewhere. Surely this type of deterrent belongs to the cold war and isn't really effective when thinking of the threats from ISIS and other such groups?

Would love to hear your thoughts smile

Verbena37 Tue 08-Sep-15 18:04:02

Much as I hate nuclear anything, you cannot un-invent nuclear weapons. The point is they're a deterrent and without the Uk having any deterrent, and lots of other countries having them, it seems sensible to keep Trident?

The cost is ridiculous and yes, the money could be better spent elsewhere but we give billions of pounds to other causes abroad which perhaps could be reined back and used for our own welfare.

Unless the entire world decommissioned their nuclear weapons, which will never happen, the deterrent idea won't work.

Saying that, The weapons of the future will be way more easily 'usabale' than Trident.....and leave no trace from where they came. So who knows.

ghostyslovesheep Tue 08-Sep-15 18:05:37

I am firmly anti nuclear weapons so I would scrap them

Hamiltoes Tue 08-Sep-15 18:08:12


catfordbetty Tue 08-Sep-15 18:09:06

What if the French turn nasty? You can't be too careful where they're concerned.

Egosumquisum Tue 08-Sep-15 18:13:47

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Egosumquisum Tue 08-Sep-15 18:14:32

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Egosumquisum Tue 08-Sep-15 18:18:20

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RaspberrySwitchblade Tue 08-Sep-15 18:19:57


I thought the whole point of Trident is as a deterent.

So billions on something we don't want to use hmm

Verbena37 Tue 08-Sep-15 18:20:35

U.S., Uk, Russia, France, China, Isarael, Pakistan, N. Korea and India.....
Or perhaps nobody has any....the perfect deterrent.....that we all just think we all have them.

redannie118 Tue 08-Sep-15 18:20:51

Even the top brass in the military dont want trident its a monumental waste of money

MaidOfStars Tue 08-Sep-15 18:22:20

China, U.S., Russia, UK, France, India, Pakistan, North Korea (probably), Israel (probably), Iran (possibly), Belgium/Italy/Germany have some shared thing going on.

MaidOfStars Tue 08-Sep-15 18:23:03

(The Iran thing is tongue-in-cheek, I don't think they have weapons).

MaidOfStars Tue 08-Sep-15 18:24:19

Would it be possible to enter into a shared programme with EU countries?

MaidOfStars Tue 08-Sep-15 18:25:44

Maybe Trident has already gone and the government are trousers get the cash?

MaidOfStars Tue 08-Sep-15 18:26:06

Trousers get = trousering

Egosumquisum Tue 08-Sep-15 18:27:07

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Egosumquisum Tue 08-Sep-15 18:28:36

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Indantherene Tue 08-Sep-15 18:31:30

Because of the way Govt contracts work we are obliged to replace Trident or spend even more money to compensate for breaking the contract. Getting rid of it is not an option, so the debate is pointless.

Weathergames Tue 08-Sep-15 18:34:42

I can assure you they haven't already got rid of it - OH is on it wink

Egosumquisum Tue 08-Sep-15 18:39:16

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nancy75 Tue 08-Sep-15 18:54:37

Has anyone noticed Russia is not looking like our best mate at the moment? Putin scares me a hell of a lot more than Isis and he has bigger guns

OTheHugeManatee Tue 08-Sep-15 18:58:00


Egosumquisum Tue 08-Sep-15 18:59:03

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Fluffy40 Tue 08-Sep-15 19:05:14

And the govt never get bribes from arms companies do they ?

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