Can someone explain to me HOW a Forever Living seller makes SO much money?

[123fevertree]

Just seen the following post on the acquaintance of a friend's facebook:

"Getting some bad vibes? Read on....
X amount of the population form a huge proportion of the "Employed" "9-5" crowd.... and you know what that's great. I love to have my hair done, eat out, get a spray tan, book a holiday, buy cars etc.... none of which I could do without these people.
I'm grateful that the world is a better and safer place with teachers, fire fighters, Dr's, midwives etc..... it's ok not everyone wants to become a Network Marketer!
Yes I work with all of the above..... but plenty of people have said NO.... and that's ok ????
Bad vibes can come from a lack of understanding, sheer disbelief & also jealousy, that they either feel they cannot do this, cannot live their dream.... or just plane nasty vibes where they want you to fail.
None of these prevent your success, only you have that ability..... so tune out and get on with it.
I am proud to be a Network Marketer, to have changed the lives of over 1000 people... but I am also proud that I have never reacted to, dwelled on or focused on Negativity.... and because of that we live our dreams.
Those family members that don't get it, those "friends" that just don't reply any more.... it happens! But let me promise you this.... it won't last with all of them and the others just were not worth it....
I am a multiple 6 figure earner, I have been there, faced it all and forgot within minutes so stop worrying, life is about what are prepared to make it..... and then their life will be as nice as you willing to make it ???? My friends that stood by me get REALLY cool gifts these days.... oh and global travel"

I don't understand where the money comes from? The only people I know who buy Forever Living products are the people selling them?

Or maybe I'm just bitter and jealous and should start selling Aloe based wonder products...

[bittapitta]

It's bolleux. Great thread about it elsewhere on MN recently, I'll try and find the link

[HowDdo2You]

Those at the top of the pyramid do well out of it.

[notthepresidentofusa]

It's a bit like a pyramid scheme. You only earn 6 figures if you are on top, everyone underneath wouldn't do nearly as well as that.

[bittapitta]

Here is the thread, long but all interesting: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/2394271-Ive-been-sucked-into-forever-living-Why-do-I-feel-like-the-bad-guy

[123fevertree]

Thanks BittaPitta,

It's interesting (if sad) reading. Facebook post looks even more Stockholm syndrome-esque now...

[bodenbiscuit]

I've just been talking with my friend about this. I know someone who apparently earns £16k a month and I know another woman who started doing it at the end of last year and now says she quit her day job and is warning £4k a month.

There has to be some sort of catch, surely.

One person that I know who seems their stuff overcharged me for something which annoyed me.

[bodenbiscuit]

Earning

[Motherlickertellyflicker]

I haven a friend who has done very well with acti derm. Driving flash cars etc etc

[laffymeal]

I'd never heard of it till I came on here. Still don't really understand it, is it like Posh Avon?

[MagpieCursedTea]

They've either conned other people into joining their "team" and are taking their money or they're flat out lying.

[Benllech]

They make money from the people that they recruit personally rather than the products which are overpriced imo. That's why they are keen to recruit as many people as possible as they earn commission on their earnings. That's what my friend told me and she has been doing it for 2 years.

[lastuseraccount123]

also they are told to 'fake it til they make it" and that 80% of their selling is based on selling a lifestyle, 20% on the actual product. They want to lure more victims in for their downline. hence on the emphasis on flash cars, etc.

[Runningupthathill82]

The FL bot I know doesn't make a penny from it, despite doing it full time. Everything she makes she spends on products.

[bodenbiscuit]

Really last user? So they are actually lying about what they earn etc?

[EachandEveryone]

Michelle off Corrie was bragging that her 18 year old daughter is making loads of money from it in OK magazine last week.

I have to admit I like the products I've tried.

[lastuseraccount123]

yeah. I found an FB page that had FL training on it, which included information about faking it til you make it etc. I posted the pics in one of the FL threads - Can't remember if it was the first one, the second one or the third one, ha.

[bodenbiscuit]

The thing is though, although they get money from recruiting others - surely it's destined to collapse at some point?

[lastuseraccount123]

found it:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/2394271-Ive-been-sucked-into-forever-living-Why-do-I-feel-like-the-bad-guy?pg=35#prettyPhoto

btw there is loads of info in those threads. We dug up a lot of em, interesting stuff about FL.

[lastuseraccount123]

boden I guess, but they just keep expanding into new countries - right now the big push is into Germany. IMO companies like this are parasites on the real economy.

[Ilovecrapcrafts]

What makes me laugh is that they always seem to prove their worth with things like manicures and spa days, things which I associate with low earners thinking of as big treats.

I earn a good salary and I don't go around getting over excited by a pedicure. Why don't they have a massive houSe, or a holiday home, or children at top private schools? Why is it always low value treats which prove how rich they are???

[YUDOTHIS]

I've worked in both sales and MLM. (MLM as a single/low income teen mum out of desperation really). My average commission income was £25 a week (based in sales of around 125 a week, difficult to achieve depending on the value of products). the car rewards and such was given to you if you had x amount of sales and x amount of team members and held a certain rank for 6 months, then you got a car, bearing in mind very very few people achieved this. i'm not going to name the company but i dont have to-they're all the same.
Steer clear. the market is saturated right now with mlm, including fl and younique meaning that there are much more reps than there are potential customers... so they're screwed really and have to fight over customers. these companies launch big and tall, recruit loads of people making hundreds and thousands (even millions) for the top cats, then eventually the company dries up, folds and reopens under another name or has all of the cash it needs to do whatever the goal was. happens all the time. believe it or not the best time to (temporarily) join a MLM (If at all- not recommended to do at all) is during or just before a launch or a worldwide launch. thats the only time you'll get any sort of decent money (few hundred a month maybe) but even then, you've got to know how and when to safely jump ship and remember that its pocket money only, please never rely on any form of MLM for a full time income. it just doesn't work like that.

[lastuseraccount123]

that makes me sad Ilove. I think low earners who desperately want better lives/stay home with their kids are FL's prime victims.

[lastuseraccount123]

well said Yudo

[HitsAndMrs]

Bit offensive Ilove. I'm a beauty Therapist and my pedicures aren't low value treats
I got cornered by an Avon lady yesterday who I gave my number - why did I do this?! I'm too polite I think.

[bodenbiscuit]

I don't that that is true though that people are talking about having manicures . I know one person who does forever living who has 6, yes 6 children at good private schools. I also know another woman who lives in a really big house. And people say they are booking Sansatori holidays.