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To think racist stereotypes shouldn't feature in a school play?

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LadyFuckrington Sat 11-Jul-15 16:04:55

Went to see dd in her play last night and was pretty horrified by the 'Indians' dressed in feathered headgear and talking like um how.

I sat there with my mouth open because it had shades of 'blacking up' and just didn't sit well with me.

Am I being ridiculous? Dd was a cowboy in the play, which was set in the Wild West and they all did terrible American accents, but the whole pidgin English representation of the native Americans speech made me wince. That and the fact they were listed in the flyer as Indians.

Aibu? I feel like complaining to the school really but I'm not well at the moment and can't tell if I'm overreacting.

TravellingToad Sat 11-Jul-15 16:12:59

You can't actually breathe anymore without the PC brigade over reacting. The term "professionally offended" comes to mind.

ilovesooty Sat 11-Jul-15 16:16:12

It ought to be perfectly possible to put on a school play without stereotyping like this.

PC brigade
Professionally offended

Here we go. Those terms as far as I can see are usually used by people who simply want the freedom to be offensive.

BeatieBo Sat 11-Jul-15 16:18:28

YABU. Many native Americans refer to themselves as Indians.There is no need to be offended on their behalf!

LadyFuckrington Sat 11-Jul-15 16:23:52

Many black people refer to themselves as the n word, it doesn't make it ok.

I just think the play could have been done without the offensive stereotyping.

ilovesooty Sat 11-Jul-15 16:26:03

The description of the speech sounds like stereotyping to me.

Dawndonnaagain Sat 11-Jul-15 16:26:12

You can't actually breathe anymore without the PC brigade over reacting. The term "professionally offended" comes to mind.
The term fuck off comes to mind.

YABU. Many native Americans refer to themselves as Indians.There is no need to be offended on their behalf!

My daughter refers to her wheelchair as her spaz chariot. Doesn't give you the right to do the same.

OP Of course it was racist and you really should be having words with the school.

BeatieBo Sat 11-Jul-15 16:28:40

Yes but you won't find "spaz chariot" in official documents regarding wheelchairs. You will find the term Indian used officially in America though.

CamelHump Sat 11-Jul-15 16:31:18

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GoodbyeToAllOfThat Sat 11-Jul-15 16:33:02

Yes but you won't find "spaz chariot" in official documents regarding wheelchairs. You will find the term Indian used officially in America though.

I'm American and I'm pretty certain people who know better use the term "Native American". "Indian" is, after all, a mistake of geography made by the colonists who went on to exterminate 20 million "Indians".

owlborn Sat 11-Jul-15 16:34:35

I cringed just reading that.

And "PC gone mad" is the mating cry of the frustrated bigot. I note the majority of the people complaining about all this offence taking don't have bigotry aimed at them.

ElkTheory Sat 11-Jul-15 16:39:28

YANBU. I would definitely raise it with the school.

Dawndonnaagain Sat 11-Jul-15 16:45:06

Yes but you won't find "spaz chariot" in official documents regarding wheelchairs. You will find the term Indian used officially in America though.
Funny that, because despite doing my Phd dissertation on the demise of the native american, it's not a term I ever found, although admittedly, it was over twenty years ago.

Muskey Sat 11-Jul-15 16:47:02

You would think the school should know better.

ifgrandmahadawilly Sat 11-Jul-15 16:49:12

YABU. Seems like a bit of an over the top reaction to me tbh.

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AmberFool Sat 11-Jul-15 17:02:01

You will find the term Indian used officially in America though.

Er, no. Officially it's Native American.

AmberFool Sat 11-Jul-15 17:04:04

You will find the term Indian used officially in America though.

Er, no. Just no. Officially it's Native American.

ghostyslovesheep Sat 11-Jul-15 17:05:50

blimey why not just go the whole hog and call them redskins hmm

seriously yabu - there are always people who try to diminish casual racism and sexism - often they are the casual racists - I would complain

that said I complained about the 'native black man in a grass skirt' with a bone through his nose painted on the school nursery wall - nothing happend

AmberFool Sat 11-Jul-15 17:07:10

Stupid PC, thought first post had not posted. Grr.

ghostyslovesheep Sat 11-Jul-15 17:07:57

has you PC gorn mad Amber grin

ElkTheory Sat 11-Jul-15 17:09:04

BTW Indian is fine, as long as it wasn't Red Indian (horrible). Indian and Native American tend to be used interchangeably in the US. In Canada the term First Nations is often used.

But teaching children that Indians actually speak in that old Hollywood style fake broken English is utterly unacceptable and should be challenged IMO.

derxa Sat 11-Jul-15 17:10:48

I'm not remotely PC. I'm a teacher and I find the description of the play disgusting. I could not imagine putting this play on stage in a million years.

SkodaLabia Sat 11-Jul-15 17:11:22

I'm with you OP, I went to a dance show recently where there was a routine with the kids dressed up in grass skirt type costumes. In both the narration and the programme they were referred to as 'Savages'.

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