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25 when did it become not an adult?

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Samcro Wed 08-Jul-15 23:26:31

so under 25 you don't get the new wage.
surely 25 is and adult. someone who has left education and home, hopefully been working a few years so why?
why is say (for example) a 23 yr old thought to be worth less?

ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 23:31:51

I would guess they went for that age based on all the reports saying people still live with their parents til then

Samcro Wed 08-Jul-15 23:33:32

but how can they now leave home

LashesandLipstick Wed 08-Jul-15 23:41:12

When all your voters are miserable old bastards moaning about today's generation it makes sense to fuck over the young.

In all seriousness it really annoys me.

senua Wed 08-Jul-15 23:41:41

It's probably because at that age you are only responsible for yourself. And perhaps your OH. You won't have taken on family responsibilities. The average age of mothers is 29.8 y.o. and fathers are older than that.

Samcro Wed 08-Jul-15 23:42:13

its so sad as they are the people who will keep us when we are old. I hope they remember.

TOADfan Wed 08-Jul-15 23:43:34

You have always been considered a young person until 25. It isn't new and isn't always bad, as at 24 I got my job because I was in a young persons employment scheme.
I also did youth work with up to 25 year olds.

It's not always a bad thing and can be beneficial, especially finding jobs.

Saying that I'm 25 now and still feel like a young person.

LashesandLipstick Wed 08-Jul-15 23:45:22

Young person is still an adult, and it's bad when you're not getting the same wage for the same job, it's exploitation

raawwhh Wed 08-Jul-15 23:59:14

Its disgusting. My rent and bills arent cheaper, my car doesnt cost less to run and Im not any less competent at my job because Im 24 and not 25.

Babiecakes11 Thu 09-Jul-15 00:11:52

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ReallyTired Thu 09-Jul-15 00:14:55

Bloody ridiculous. I had a good job and my own flat at 25. Lots of people were married and had a family long before 25. In fact doctors suggest it's better to have children in your twenties.

I fear that lots of over 25s will be frozen out the job market has they have to be paid a living wage. I feel the minimum wage should apply to all over 18s unless they are in an apprenticeship. I hope some one challenges this outright ageism.

whois Thu 09-Jul-15 00:17:42

I feel like 21 would be a better age for the cut off.

DixieNormas Thu 09-Jul-15 00:18:17

Ds1 has just finished his apprenticeship, by the time he turns 25 he will have been with the company for 8 years, hes more qulified than some of the older employers now who have been with the company less time. Yet they wont have to pay him as much, its unfair.

BualadhBos Thu 09-Jul-15 00:18:22

I got married when I was 25.

BualadhBos Thu 09-Jul-15 00:19:27

Wish I was still 25!

BabyFeets Thu 09-Jul-15 00:21:29

How the gov seem to see it, they also think 25yr olds should still be a home. In a way though they are sort of correct since people are living longer

DixieNormas Thu 09-Jul-15 00:21:56

I had two dc, was married, worked full time and was also at college at 24

80sMum Thu 09-Jul-15 00:23:24

Seems daft to me. When I was 25 I had 2 children, a mortgage and had been married for 5 years! I was most definitely an adult.

SinisterBunnyMonth Thu 09-Jul-15 00:26:11

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Greenrememberedhills Thu 09-Jul-15 00:27:10

Now now Chuffin, I'm a miserable old bastard but I don't approve of fucking over the young either! mind you, I'm not a story either

Greenrememberedhills Thu 09-Jul-15 00:27:28


wafflyversatile Thu 09-Jul-15 00:40:03

It's probably because at that age you are only responsible for yourself. And perhaps your OH. You won't have taken on family responsibilities. The average age of mothers is 29.8 y.o. and fathers are older than that.

You seem to be confusing the meaning of 'average' with the meaning of 'minimum'.

Scissor Thu 09-Jul-15 00:40:06

Office for national statistics:
"Babies born in England and Wales in 2012 were most likely to have a mother aged 25-34, with over a half (57%) of mothers in this age group. A further 23% of babies were born to younger mothers, aged under 25, while a fifth (20%) had mothers aged 35 and over at the time of birth."

So 23% of babies born don't require one of their parents to be entitled to be paid a living wage ???
Is that the logic? Maybe they're magic babies that live on fairy dust.

Scissor Thu 09-Jul-15 00:43:08

Actually ...more accurately these 23% of babies have a mother who is not entitled to living wage.

GraysAnalogy Thu 09-Jul-15 00:47:41

If they're old enough to be tried as an adult in court then they should get the same amount as an adult in pay.

I've been an adult according to cinema prices since I was 14 years of age now that's a fucking travesty.

The people who make these laws are so out of touch with the real world it's unreal. Most people I knew when I was 18 had to pay their own way. Parents couldn't afford us. Child benefit stopped so that was even worse.

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