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to think it is fair enough that High earners, earning £30000 pa have to pay market rates for social housing.

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NoahVale Sun 05-Jul-15 10:03:10

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/04/david-cameron-ally-rohan-silva-firms-must-be-forced-raise-low-pay

I spose there has to be a cut off somewhere, and I spose it helps that I dont earn £30,000,
no doubt if it was just in the bracket I might feel a bit peeved.

Yellowbird01 Sun 05-Jul-15 10:07:12

Yanbu

Totally reasonable

TheHouseOnBellSt Sun 05-Jul-15 10:09:04

I thought it was but 30 grand's not an awful lot really. Would it mean fo eg two people...a couple...both earning 15 grand would suddenly have to pay full market rent?

NoahVale Sun 05-Jul-15 10:10:30

but oth who would benefit?
social housing, ie, which could be housing associations or council. i dont know if housing associations are profit making or whether they donate a percentage to council

Samcro Sun 05-Jul-15 10:11:34

it annoys me that they just assume that only London is dear to rent, so make that 40 grand.
so if you live on a council estate in the south east you could end up paying out an awful lot.
I would rather see housing costs for all come down.

Etak15 Sun 05-Jul-15 10:11:45

Most of the people I know earn under 30,000 and pay there rent in full or they have their own home - am I missing something?

gamerwidow Sun 05-Jul-15 10:12:36

The principle is sound but the threshold for high cost living areas should be at least £50k per household. There's no way those in a 30k household could afford market rates in London etc if you have to include childcare and travel costs too.

GreenAugustLion Sun 05-Jul-15 10:12:59

I wouldn't really call a £30k household 'high earners' tbh...that's on the low side of average surely for a whole household?

But, in most cases I'd imagine it's plenty to pay market rate.

NoahVale Sun 05-Jul-15 10:13:21

well at least 3 of my neighbours must be in this bracket

PausingFlatly Sun 05-Jul-15 10:13:25

From the article: "Extra money from those living in local authority properties will go straight to the Exchequer."

So, not to local authority to help with housing crisis.

RachelRagged Sun 05-Jul-15 10:13:37

Probably not the right answer or context NoahVale but my Housing Association (South East) rents a lot of houses from the local council ,, whether they then pay the council not sure . We pay rent to said HA.

NoahVale Sun 05-Jul-15 10:14:14

it is £40,000 in london

usualsuspect333 Sun 05-Jul-15 10:14:15

30k is not exactly high earning.

SH rents are not too low. Private rents are too high. How about the Tories sort that out.

PausingFlatly Sun 05-Jul-15 10:15:19

Yeah, I boggled a bit to see George Osborne call families on £30K "high earners".

Samcro Sun 05-Jul-15 10:15:21

but they won't cos the LL are most likely tory voters

NoahVale Sun 05-Jul-15 10:16:36

I agree with usual,
private rents definitely too high.
no doubt private landlords will jump on band wagon, supply and demand, and put up rents

GlitterTwinkleToes Sun 05-Jul-15 10:18:01

We earn 21000pa and pay full market rates? Am I missing something here confused

NapoleonsNose Sun 05-Jul-15 10:18:39

We will just fall into this bracket if tax credits are taken into account as income and we will struggle. We both work f/t and I have substantial commuting costs, have two children - although by 2017 the eldest will be at uni but I fully expect to have to give her some money every month as she will not get a full grant - and we live in an area where market rents are high. We would be looking at finding roughly another £300 a month and we will struggle to find that. We'll do it but it will be tough.

gamerchick Sun 05-Jul-15 10:19:45

I knew.. I knew it would go that way rather than sort private rents out.

Maybe they want private rents to go up, that's why they're doing it
Partly?

80sMum Sun 05-Jul-15 10:20:10

£30k is more than double what someone on NMW wouldn't be earning in a full-time job.

AntiHop Sun 05-Jul-15 10:21:51

I wonder if this is a ploy to get those earning £30k plus to buy their homes through Right To Buy and therefore reduce social housing even more.

NapoleonsNose Sun 05-Jul-15 10:23:12

I think you've probably hit the nail on the head there AntiHop

NoahVale Sun 05-Jul-15 10:23:57

Sounds about right Antihop

PausingFlatly Sun 05-Jul-15 10:24:35

So with yesterday's Inheritance Tax cut, this means:

if you work to pay for your housing, you'll pay more

and

if you inherit your housing, you'll pay less.

Not quite seeing this as a budget for Hard-Working Families™.

gamerchick Sun 05-Jul-15 10:24:41

Funnily enough this was my first thought. ^^ I've been a tennant for 20 years and the house is big and only worth 92 grand. Mortgage payments would be less than what we're paying in rent.

I don't want the house though, I want to give it back as its a 4 bed.

If that was my first thought then it'll be others.

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