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to think Beauty and the Beast is all to cock?

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downgraded Tue 30-Jun-15 19:21:20

DD is obsessed with this. Mostly I don't mind because the songs are good.... but have you noticed that:

1) The prince got turned into a beast when he was 11. He has until he's 21 to get someone to fall in love with him, and they say they been like that for 10 years - who the fuck turns an 11 year old into a beast because he's mean to them? 11 year olds are mean, that's what they do! Plus why was he in the castle on his own anyway, where were the parents? Why weren't SS involved?

2) Belle finds the rose and runs off on the very same night she is taken prisoner. The same night! She has the meal and then pokes about where she shouldn't and that's that. I mean, she's brand new in the castle and specifically told not to go in the West Wing. Does she give a fuck? No, the nosey cow goes wandering off where she shouldn't. As far as house guests go, it's pretty bad manners.

3) Maurice goes straight to the tavern once he is kicked out of the castle and gets Gaston thinking of chucking him in the loony bin. They get the old man round fairly shortly and Belle turns up with the mirror. So how long has Belle had to fall in love with the beast? 48 hours? For a guy with hairy hands and fangs he's a pretty fast worker.

4) so from start to finish, the whole thing happens within a week. If Belle was to post here for advice, I'm not sure that anyone would be advocating marrying a semi feral wild animal with a staff of animate household objects, even if he did have his own castle. Especially in so short a timescale.

I love the film, but the timings are seriously fucked up.

ahbollocks Tue 30-Jun-15 19:22:42

Also he has a pretty bad temper and was a nasty shit to her lovely dad

BettyCatKitten Tue 30-Jun-15 19:30:42

grin very valid points!

CrispyFern Tue 30-Jun-15 19:33:10

This is good though
the-toast.net/2015/03/05/beauty-beast/

ollieplimsoles Tue 30-Jun-15 19:33:48

I LOVE this film, but you are totally right...also:

She goes on about adventures "I want adventure in the great wild somewhere" etc.. Her dream is to get out of her little town and travel. But she ends up shacked up with a post- beast prince and living in a massive castle a few miles from her old house! I wouldn't call that adventure!

TheHumourlessHarpy Tue 30-Jun-15 19:33:58

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girliefriend Tue 30-Jun-15 19:34:05

grin

SilverDragonfly1 Tue 30-Jun-15 19:36:51

1) I just assume that in fairytale land, time can be stretched- so it's felt like 10 years for him, but has only been one or two in the (relatively) real world.

2) This has always bothered me too.

3) In the real story of B&B, the beast lives quite some way from the village, since the merchant has to ask for shelter there- if it was just down the road, he could have gone on home. So that has never bothered me until... I have just now reasoned that if the castle is a week or so of travelling away, how do the villagers get there in minutes???

Damn, now I'll be picking holes in the plot all night :/

WellErrr Tue 30-Jun-15 19:41:20

I've never noticed it say that he had until he was 21??

But the timings are fucked up, yes. Didn't even notice until I was re-watching as an adult.

WellErrr Tue 30-Jun-15 19:42:24

And who is Chip's father? And how many other kids does she have? ('Get into the cupboard with your brothers and sisters')
And just how many servants did thT house have!?

Fatstacks Tue 30-Jun-15 19:42:53

I don't know the plot well enough to comment but because 'all to cock' is one of my most overused and favourite phrases YADNBU grin

downgraded Tue 30-Jun-15 19:59:46

Oh yes Ollie, good point!

"I want adventure" = I want to be waited on hand a foot in a massive castle, saddled with some petulant prince, with my dad just down the road.

You're a sellout, Belle hmm

downgraded Tue 30-Jun-15 20:07:38

CrispyFern that's similar to the version DD has got on tape. Creepy isn't it?

What's the relevance of everything being "hers" but her not being mistress of it? I feel like I'm missing something - that she has all material possessions and yet what? It's empty?

Is Beauty supposed to have done something to deserve it? There doesn't seem to be a moral of the story, as such....

Ohanarama Tue 30-Jun-15 20:45:39

I can't believe Mrs Potts is Chip's mum - she must have been like 60 when she gave birth?
Also the Beast falling in love before his 21st birthday is not as dubious as Sleeping Beauty whose finger gets pricked on her sixteenth birthday. Luckily she was chasing after the prince aged 15 otherwise there would have been nobody to break the spell grin

downgraded Tue 30-Jun-15 20:47:29

Oh Sleeping Beauty is all fucked up as well.

She meets the prince aged 15, then pricks her finger and falls asleep for 100 years.

But then the very same prince she met when she was 15 comes along 100 years later and kisses her - and he hasn't aged a day!

drudgetrudy Tue 30-Jun-15 20:51:16

Beauty and the beast made me cry when I first saw it because it was about true love. I do wonder though what would have happened if he had remained a handsome prince and she had been changed into an ugly hag.
Would he have seen past it? (Doubt it).

downgraded Tue 30-Jun-15 20:52:52

Is it about true love though? Or throwing in your hand with the first person to come along because you're desperate to get out of your home town?

<relates>

excited99 Tue 30-Jun-15 20:55:01

When the beast gets attacked by wolves how does belle manage to lift him on to the back of the horse? My 3yo DS is obsessed at the moment. He loves Gaston!grin

cantgonofurther Tue 30-Jun-15 20:56:58

I always wanted to know why know one has not noticed there is a missing prince. He must be a prince of somewhere. The village must have known he was there before he turned into a beast.

shakemysilliesout Tue 30-Jun-15 20:59:19

I read he was living alone because his parents were killed in the French revolution.

downgraded Tue 30-Jun-15 21:01:47

Oh God I'm not sure I'm going to be able to enjoy B&B after this thread hmm

You're all so right.

Incidentally, dd and I passed a church last weekend and a bride and groom were having their photo taken outside. DD wanted to stop to see the "princess", so we lingered for a few minutes.

When I wanted to go, DD had a tantrum, involving screaming "Noooo want to see PRINCESS! Want to see BEAST!!!"

Me: "darling that's not the beast, that's the bridegroom and we are now leaving blush"

blushblushblush

Iliveinalighthousewith2friendl Tue 30-Jun-15 21:06:40

I'm currently watching Beauty and the Beast. I love Disney films could watch them all day. Cinderella is my fAvorite.
Well I am only 39grin

TheCraicDealer Tue 30-Jun-15 21:21:51

Beauty & the Beast is my favorite mostly because of Cogsworth and Lumiere. Hilaaaaaaaire.

Also I liked the fact that Belle was like, "I don't like you and I'm gonna be a lil bitch until you stop behaving like a prick and save me from wolves and shit".

I have Be Our Guest on my shower playlist.

Cumbrae Tue 30-Jun-15 21:59:25

Also the Beast ages in the ten years but the household staff don't appear to as Chip appears younger than 10 yo...

downgraded Tue 30-Jun-15 22:00:27

Was Chip born a teacup?!

How does a teapot give birth??

<boggle>

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