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To think this is a wee bit racist?

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DaysAreWhereWeLive Tue 12-May-15 16:02:31

I've just been on Twitter to see that Chuka Ummuna is trending because he has thrown his hat into the ring for the Labour leadership contest.

The first two tweets called him 'the next Barrack Obama' (presumably because he's black) and 'the Fresh Prince'. (er, same)

Is it all just a bit cringy and wrong? Essentially they were pointing out nothing about his politics, his experience or his chances at leadership. Just the fact that he is black. Anybody else think the same?

SoupDragon Tue 12-May-15 16:09:46

Fresh Prince is a bit odd but the Barack Obama comparison is perfectly valid as he would be the first black leader of a main political party with the potential to be the UKs first black PM

BarbarianMum Tue 12-May-15 16:10:49

If he were elected it would be the first time a UK party leader was black (I think) so I could forgive the comparison with Barak Obama. Fresh Prince???

BarbarianMum Tue 12-May-15 16:11:49


WhetherOrNot Tue 12-May-15 16:11:58

Nope, not racist.

badtime Tue 12-May-15 16:12:32

Prince as in leader and fresh as in new?

(Nah, it's definitely racist)

jossiesGiants1 Tue 12-May-15 16:13:13

give it a rest.. do some people just look for a recist element in everything

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett Tue 12-May-15 16:13:40

Fresh Prince is racist imo - that the only other black role model he can be compared to is Will Smith in a tv programme 20 odd years ago.

Barack Obama - well, he would be the first black party leader in the UK and if he won and election he'd be the first black PM in the UK so I can understand those comparisons.

jossiesGiants1 Tue 12-May-15 16:13:54


addstudentdinners2 Tue 12-May-15 16:16:31

Erm, it is pretty racist as the only people they seem to be able to compare him to are both black...

Mixed race here (Like both Obama and Chuka I believe), and it's annoying as fuck when this happens.

DaysAreWhereWeLive Tue 12-May-15 16:17:36

Yes, you're right about the Obama comparison.

But, the Fresh Prince. Just seems like they picked a character from a 20 year old sitcom for one reason only.

And thanks Jossie, but I don't think I will give it a rest, what with this being a free public forum and all...

Theycallmemellowjello Tue 12-May-15 16:17:55

Barack Obama - not racist (there has never been a BME leader of a major political party and it's not racist to mention that this would make Umunna a trailblazer in the same way that Obama was. It obviously would be racist for commentators to go on and on about this angle to the exclusion of all his policies though.)
Fresh Prince - racist.

SolomanDaisy Tue 12-May-15 16:18:24

Fresh prince does sound racist, unless it is something he has said in a speech. The comparison with Obama is valid though.

jellybeans Tue 12-May-15 16:21:52

He has done school events with Will Smith and sang The Fresh Prince, could they have been referring to that? Some people on facebook have been outwardly racist saying 'erm no because you are black' and 'Britain isn't ready for a black PM' etc and also 'not with that foreign name'. Ugh! now that is bang out of order. For what it is worth I think he would be good!

addstudentdinners2 Tue 12-May-15 16:24:40

I think the sad truth is that his name would be an issue in this country. I have a non-English name and the grief I get for it is unbelievable. It's basically said how it is spelt (ie, like Chuka's is) and yet people say it wrong (after being told how to say it), spell it wrong and go 'ooooh, that's a mouthful' (it isn't).

It shouldn't be like that, it's disgraceful that it is, but I do think it would be an issue.

Whitershadeofpale Tue 12-May-15 16:26:51

It is like be because of this

Tequilashotsfor1 Tue 12-May-15 16:29:19

The fresh prince one yes

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HoneyDragon Tue 12-May-15 16:33:29

Americans didn't call Hilary Clinton the next Margaret Thatcher. They referred to her as the possible first female President.

NKfell Tue 12-May-15 16:36:41

The Fresh Prince comment sounds dodgy if you don't know but it must be from when he went to that school in Brixton and danced to it?

The Barack one, that's 'alright' since it's to become a potential leader of a predominately white country like Obama...but, it is a shame and that's why it's not great but, it's alright.

TheOriginalSteamingNit Tue 12-May-15 16:41:55

Didn't know he'd done that song!

I just wish some gambling exec would pay him £20K not to run for the leadership....

DaysAreWhereWeLive Tue 12-May-15 16:43:56

Yeah I knew he has done that but it still seemed such an easy angle, with both comparisons side by side right in front of me. Perhaps not, though.

SoupDragon Tue 12-May-15 16:44:01

Americans didn't call Hilary Clinton the next Margaret Thatcher.

Maybe because Thatcher was over 30 years ago and is dead. Obama still is the U.S. president.

OrangeVase Tue 12-May-15 16:48:47

Not racist.

jellybeans Tue 12-May-15 16:54:31

Why shouldn't he go for it? I think he would be good.

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