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AIBU?

To think this is really uncalled for

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GraysAnalogy · 04/02/2015 11:24

I recently ran a training session with some colleagues, people invited to attend included professionals of the field, students, and clients. At the end of each session we give out feedback sheets, people fill them in and we read them to see how we can improve. We get a lot of positive feedback, some minor niggles but that's all in the name of the game.

However I've read through the last ones and one comment has really got my back up: 'I'm not sure why the woman speaker had makeup and heels on'. Hmm The person who wrote this was a woman too (feedback is anon but there's check boxes for gender, age etc for funding purposes)

I just don't see how this is relevant. I wore small heels (think office) and light makeup because I don't like it much anyway. It's sort of upset me really because instead of feeding back about the learning opportunity, they decided to pick on my appearance.

AIBU here, or is it something you yourself see as an issue?

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LIZS · 04/02/2015 11:26

Depends what the session was about and whether the delegates were told it was less formal. If that was your usual work attire I wouldn't take it personally.

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sugarman · 04/02/2015 11:26

Very sexist and random feedback.

You don't need to justify wearing heels or make up - to her or us.

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TwinkieTwinkle · 04/02/2015 11:26

Well that's a bit loopy...

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JustCallMeDory · 04/02/2015 11:26

Well, the person who wrote that is clearly an idiot. It's a silly comment to make.

Focus on the comments where someone had something worthwhile to say.

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skylark2 · 04/02/2015 11:27

What were you training them in?

If it was some sort of vigorous physical activity, then wearing heels and makeup would be odd.

If it was office-based work, sounds pretty normal to me.

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MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 04/02/2015 11:27

Just some silly bint being well....a silly bint really. A stupid comment and not remotely helpful.

Forget about it. Not worth you worrying about. I'm sure you looked fine x

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tiggytape · 04/02/2015 11:30

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Nomama · 04/02/2015 11:30

Oh dear! You met a real life MNer who thinks women should not be enslaved to society's ideas of femininity and should be told so, at every opportunity!

That's neo-feminism for you!

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GraysAnalogy · 04/02/2015 11:32

skylark nothing vigorous, ortho and new techniques. Just talking through really.

Thanks for your replies, I now feel validated better.

I was a bit sad about it, now I'm more annoyed.

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MrsRayOfSunshine · 04/02/2015 11:32

Heels and a touch of make up as office wear? Outrageous!

On a serious note, I wouldn't pay attention to that, maybe a touch of jealously from this women? Who know, but don't let it get to you

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BeeRayKay · 04/02/2015 11:33

Ugh how pointless. Even it was phsyical activity, make up is still okay.

Heals also. You can always remove them.

I was on training the other week, wore flats, still removed them. Lol.

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GraysAnalogy · 04/02/2015 11:34

perhaps she'd have preferred my biker boots...

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PeterParkerSays · 04/02/2015 11:37

I can only think this was meant in the context of either a) the other speakers deliberately dressing down, so not looking "business like" or b) her being a client in a setting where staff wouldn't usually wear business dress. Did male presenters wear a tie, for example?

What other scores did she give you? - did she feel this impacted on what she got out of the session because she felt she was being talked at by an expert, for example, rather than being trained by someone who understood her?

It's an odd thing to write, but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand without knowing more about the situation and how the session came about, mainly because you say it involved colleagues, students and clients; I would presume that it was a client who wrote this.

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HedgehogsDontBite · 04/02/2015 11:37

By 'ortho' do you mean they were bone/joint professionals? If so that may explain the Hmm at wearing heels. Doesn't explain the makeup issue though.

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TheListingAttic · 04/02/2015 11:40

Shame you have no channel to reply OP: "Because ever since she grew into a big girl, she's been allowed to pick whatever the hell she wanted to wear. That's why!"

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BathtimeFunkster · 04/02/2015 11:42

It is absolutely uncalled for to write something like that.

It's not remotely useful feedback.

I'm sorry this happened and I hope it hasn't knocked your confidence Flowers

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squoosh · 04/02/2015 11:42

Unless you were giving a seminar on outdoor survival skills I fail to see why this person would have thought heels and makeup were out of place.

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PeppermintInfusion · 04/02/2015 11:45

I've conducted training and had some random comments along these lines before (both with attendees I have known beforehand and never met before). I don't know, maybe it's like trolling, they like to do it because they see it as an opportunity to get away with it.

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Cornettoninja · 04/02/2015 11:46

I agree with it's just some silly bint taking the opportunity to put in black and white the kind of irrelevant crap she probably spouts all day.

Don't give it anymore thought - if that's all she was concentrating on it's her loss. Unprofessional twit

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BathtimeFunkster · 04/02/2015 11:48

Neo-feminism? Grin

Yes, feminsists are well known for singling women out for personal remarks about their appearance. Hmm

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BathtimeFunkster · 04/02/2015 11:49

Maybe it was a seminar on passing as a man?

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YoullLikeItNotaLot · 04/02/2015 11:50

Yes it was uncalled for. The only time it'd be irrelevant if what you were wearing hindered your presentation.

Having said that, I left some feedback which was negative for an in-house course. The person delivering it tackled me about it but I'd been very factual. Thing is, other people on the course actually shared my opinion but left positive feedback - what's the point in that?

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scratchandsniff · 04/02/2015 11:52

Silly cow must be pondering the issue a lot as she must come across plenty of females everyday who shock horror wear 'heels and makeup'!

What a stupid comment to make.

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TendonQueen · 04/02/2015 11:57

People write all sorts of crap on feedback sheets. I have seen comments about not liking the biscuits provided, plus that the event didn't give someone time to get home and make their husband's dinner Hmm (it was shorter than the normal working day too). Ignore it

Also, neo-feminism? I think someone's getting confused.

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SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 04/02/2015 11:58

Look at the bright side.

Your presentation must have been pretty damn good if all she could criticise you on was your appearance.

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