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To ask your thoughts on Jon Venables joining a dating site?

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U2TheEdge Mon 26-Jan-15 12:57:23

With his new name no one can do a google search on him and find his history.

He was found not long ago with images of child abuse.

Should he be able to get on with his life now he is out of prison? Of course he can just as easily meet someone in the pub.

I just had a debate with a family member about this so interested in your thoughts.

Link here

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/james-bulger-killer-jon-venables-5039227

U2TheEdge Mon 26-Jan-15 12:58:21

Apparently the website he uses is one that is popular with young single mothers.

LeftyLoony Mon 26-Jan-15 13:00:55

I'd hope his probation officer is aware and that should he meet a single parent then if the terms of his license state that intervention is necessary then it happens.

InfinitySeven Mon 26-Jan-15 13:01:03

Is he not supposed to have limited and supervised internet access, after his last offence? I'd be interested to know if that is still the case, and if so, whether this is allowed.

I think it is horrifically unfair on anyone who meets him, and does not know about his past. Especially if they go on to have children, although presumably social services would get involved at that point, and she would find out that he had convictions if not who he actually is.

It doesn't seem possible to balance his right to safety and a chance at rehabilitation, which he was granted when his identity was legally changed, with the rights of people to know who they are talking to/dating/marrying/etc.

Dawndonnaagain Mon 26-Jan-15 13:01:35

I see no evidence of this. Should the police see evidence I am fairly sure he will have broken terms of his release and will be imprisoned again.

Hatespiders Mon 26-Jan-15 13:03:17

It is disturbing to say the least. But frankly, one is taking a risk with online dating anyway, and even rl dating. You can never be entirely sure that the person you're meeting is normal and safe to be with.
I can't think of a viable safeguard though. One can't legally pursue Venables throughout his life with constant surveillance, or forbid him to date.

Goldmandra Mon 26-Jan-15 13:04:10

I'm not sure what purpose is served by MNers having a good old gossip about it. If you know about it, I'm pretty sure the probation service do and will take appropriate action.

ilovechristmas1 Mon 26-Jan-15 13:08:27

him being able to access lonely,single mums sends a shiver down me

i thought he had restricted access to the internet to

i really dont see how he can be kept an eye on all the time,it's impossible

with all his history and i also mean the recent abuse pictures it just smacks to me that he is a dangerous individual and has not been rehabilitated and will always pose a high risk

if i had the power he would be serving life till his dying days

RosyAuroch Mon 26-Jan-15 13:09:01

Jesus Christ, what fresh hell is this?

I think if they can limit his internet access, this could be one of the categories he has to avoid.

I realise there are risks with any kind of dating, however the fact that you can a) filter for things like whether someone already has children on dating websites and
b) arrange a much higher volume of dates/meetings surely increases the risk factor.

A dating website could basically be used as a very effective tool to target someone vulnerable in these circumstances. I'd say that banning someone from online dating sites would be no different from saying someone can't live within 100 yards of a school for example.

JennyOnTheBlocks Mon 26-Jan-15 13:11:19

i thought there was a ban on publicising his identity, be it old or new, because even if he is up to no good, this can be construed as harrassment?

i might be wrong though

Hatespiders Mon 26-Jan-15 13:11:20

Isn't there a means of finding out if a new partner/bf has any record for crimes against children? Something to do with little Sarah Payne?

Aeroflotgirl Mon 26-Jan-15 13:11:38

I feel its a disgrace tbh. No more hiding his identity, people need to know who he is. What are the government doing to protect potential victims, they seem hellbent on protecting him.

momb Mon 26-Jan-15 13:12:50

Leave him alone. Is it not shameful enough that two little boys were tried as adults because the gutter press stirred up a shit storm of public outrage. Even now, years later, the press are hounding them. Let the services do their job.

Aeroflotgirl Mon 26-Jan-15 13:13:24

I think if he does enter a relationship, especially with a partner who has a child, it us up to the government to inform them who he is for her and her childs safety.

Aeroflotgirl Mon 26-Jan-15 13:14:41

Their not momb, he is a booming paedophile. Yes too right they were tried as adults, their crime has discpicable and disgusting.

ilovechristmas1 Mon 26-Jan-15 13:15:43

momb are you his mother

SquirmOfEels Mon 26-Jan-15 13:15:48

We never seem to hear anything about what Robert Thomson has made of his life now.

Jon Venables was recalled to prison for having images of child abuse. I expect he is not the only person with a criminal record for sex offences on dating sites.

Becles Mon 26-Jan-15 13:16:09

What momb said

willowriver Mon 26-Jan-15 13:17:01

I imagine he is on the child sex offenders register under his 'new' identity.

He is not alone; numerous paedophiles target single mothers. Including those without convictions. The most dangerous thing you can do to a child statistically is being an unrelated male into their home.

Varya Mon 26-Jan-15 13:17:15

No priveleges for JV thanks.

U2TheEdge Mon 26-Jan-15 13:17:49

momb, did you miss the bit where he was found with child abuse images quite recently?

JennyOnTheBlocks Mon 26-Jan-15 13:19:13

"The most dangerous thing you can do to a child statistically is being <sic> an unrelated male into their home"

got any statistics to back this up, willow?

BastardGoDarkly Mon 26-Jan-15 13:19:39

I think there was a shit storm because two young boys tortured and murdered a 5 year old. One of whom has gone on to down load images of child abuse. As an adult. I don't think he's safe to be out, let alone on the internet.

Latara Mon 26-Jan-15 13:20:13

It's quite scary, I'm about to start trying Online Dating again & this reminds me that you can't trust anyone on there.

However, as U2 said, you could meet him in a local pub & not know who he was - I've dated some men who turned out to be dodgy (but NOT child abusers thank god) who I met in local nightclubs etc.

linalool Mon 26-Jan-15 13:20:28

momb he is not a "little boy" anymore and there are children who could unknowingly be at risk from him now

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