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To think that DP's two cannabis joints have changed him?

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quickqwik Mon 19-Jan-15 15:00:08

DP recently bought some "skunk" - a type of cannabis? anyway he's used it twice in the past few days (as far as I know) and all of a sudden is a miserable, temperamental twat wanting to argue with me all the time. This wouldn't be because of TWO episodes of cannabis surely?

I do remember though when we went to THailand he bought some there, got stoned and turned into arsehole of the year in one night which is why I'm wonderiing? I dont know much about it, can it do that in such small ammounts?

Mrsstarlord Mon 19-Jan-15 15:01:59

Yes it can. Although you'll get loads of people on here pointing out how alcohol is worse and cannabis is really harmless.

Starlight9 Mon 19-Jan-15 15:02:06

Yes it can. Some people tend to turn in to right arseholes when they smoke it! I hate the stuff.

hiddenhome Mon 19-Jan-15 15:05:33

Yes it can trigger things. My ex partner developed a psychotic episode when he was young after smoking too much weed.

Skunk is much stronger too.

LurkingHusband Mon 19-Jan-15 15:07:02

Are you talking all the time now, or just when under the influence ?

Just 2 joints - irrespective of what they were - wouldn't permanently change someone. In the same way 2 drinks wouldn't.

No disrespect, but were there any problems before the cannabis, or was it a perfect relationship ?

Sounds like you have quite different attitudes to some things - certainly using cannabis - which may be coming to the surface.

LurkingHusband Mon 19-Jan-15 15:08:44

Skunk is just a smelly strain of cannabis. Beloved of the Daily Mail and it's acolytes, as it sounds much more scary than Northern Lights, or Strawberry Blush, or Bubblegum (all of which can be stronger by the way, but enough facts for one thread).

sarkymare Mon 19-Jan-15 15:10:40

In my experience (I used to smoke it regularly before DC) it would be unlikely for him to change like that after smoking two joints. Cannabis is more of a pick up than a come down. If used in the long term however I agree. It can and does change people into argumentative arseholes.

I do realise though, that just like alcohol, it can affect people in different ways. So I would say that the weed is possibly a contributing factor for his foul mood but I don't think it will be the sole cause.

Theselittlelightsofmine Mon 19-Jan-15 15:15:57

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SunnyBaudelaire Mon 19-Jan-15 15:17:40

it would be a bit odd to suddenly decide to buy weed after living a clean life.
Has he stopped drinking for example?

cavkc Mon 19-Jan-15 15:30:33

He bought a joint in Thailand ... Bloody hell you know he could have been thrown in prison for 20 years +

mypoorbottee Mon 19-Jan-15 15:40:39

Just going out on a limb here, but could he be feeling a little "trapped" in his marriage? Hear me out before you roast me alive!

Maybe the smoking of joints reminded him of a carefree youth without responsibilities, and it struck him that he probably couldn't smoke joints when and where he liked anymore and that he has to be an "adult". He might be reacting to that feeling perhaps and wrongly resenting you as someone who is stopping him from doing what he likes?

Have there been any concerns from him in the past that he feels like he doesn't have the same freedoms anymore like he used to have?

mypoorbottee Mon 19-Jan-15 15:41:35

Oh bugger, sorry - I just realised you said DP right after I hit "send" (ain't that always the way?).

Ignore the bit about "marriage" and replace it with "relationship" smile

TheGonnagle Mon 19-Jan-15 15:43:33

My ex was sectioned because of heavy skunk use. For a lot of people it's harmless, but for a few it's a life changer. My ex will be on anti psychotics until the end of his days.

NewYearsHangoversHurtAlot Mon 19-Jan-15 15:44:09

Skunk is different to weed the way it's made has other chemicals added which is what triggers psychosis.

I wouldn't be suprised if there is a link. I know someone who was a habitual user who became a violent arsehole on it.

MephistophelesApprentice Mon 19-Jan-15 15:44:15

It can have profound effects, but only if there is an underlying emotional/psychological issue in place.

Also, some people have different sensitivities to the active cannabinoids (of which THC is only one). Skunk just means strongly smelling weed - does he know what strain he's got? My friend used to be an obnoxious narcissist on Sativa-derived strains, but turned back into a mellow hippy when Indica derivations became more available. If the THC/CBD ratio is heavily leaning towards the former it can produce a less euphoric effect that reveals pre-existing emotional issues.

If, for instance, he's suppressing a massive source of stress or concern a high THC strain will make it slip out as his control relaxes and he seem to be a bit of a dick.

MephistophelesApprentice Mon 19-Jan-15 15:47:31

NewYearsHangoversHurtAlot

Skunk is just a catch all term for high potency strains that's been misapplied by the media. Nothing is added, beyond human intervention at the pollination stage to ensure that high-strength is bred to high strength (although the CBD balance is becoming a concern of it's own).

LurkingHusband Mon 19-Jan-15 15:54:38

NewYearsHangoversHurtAlot

Skunk is different to weed the way it's made has other chemicals added which is what triggers psychosis.

Cite, please ?

"Skunk" is a slang street term from 1990s US, it just refers to a strain of Cannabis which does have quite a pong. "Skunk" is ironic, as the smell is quite a heavy sweet smell. As I said upthread, there are many much "stronger" strains available. However, they don't sound scary.

If there are any chemicals artificially added (which is not the same as hydroponic growing, by the way) then it's not cannabis anymore. It's something else.

The two primary (but not only) psychoactive components of cannabis are THC, and CBD. There is some emerging, but unclear evidence that high THC strains ("high" strains) can have an adverse effect on underlying mental conditions. However, just to complicate things, there are also studies that show CBD can act to help mental health - preventing psychosis.

The homegrown Sativex medicine, currently unavailable to all, is a 50/50 blend of THC/CBD, but made from 100% cannabis. They try to keep the exact strain(s) a secret, to no real worry from anyone.

SunnyBaudelaire Mon 19-Jan-15 15:57:01

thank you LurkingHubby for some good info which is a change on these threads

SunnyBaudelaire Mon 19-Jan-15 15:57:57

and Mephistopheles

sarkymare Mon 19-Jan-15 16:02:35

lurking

More often than not. The cannabis sold in the area I used to live has been 'sand blasted' to add weight. This may sound like a stupid question so please forgive me, but is this actual sand? Or is it just the name given? If not what is it blasted with?

DialsMavis Mon 19-Jan-15 16:03:52

I've had 2 partners who smoked weed.
The 1st was a nasty paranoid prick who would be vile. Thankfully he recognised this and gave it up for good and now seems like a nice enough bloke from what I can tell.

The 2nd was the loveliest guy on it or not.

It can really affect certain individuals and be seemingly ok for others

SunnyBaudelaire Mon 19-Jan-15 16:04:13

ground glass probably sarky.
tbh these days if you want to smoke, you are best off growing your own.

SpringBreaker Mon 19-Jan-15 16:07:03

it means it has been sprayed with a liquid to make it heaver, this then turns gritty when it dries and makes your throat sore too

LurkingHusband Mon 19-Jan-15 16:09:26

sarkmare

Natural cannabis grows, and pushes the psychoactive ingredient into little tiny hairs called "trichomes". depending on the maturity of the plant, these will go from white, to clear to amber (imagine the stinging hairs on a nettle plant).

Most people therefore assume a "sparkly" appearance to their bud means lots of trichomes means lots of stoned.

Dealers quickly cottoned onto this and spray anything onto the bud to look sparkly. Ground glass is a favourite, but you can imagine (or rather can't) anything similar.

I have heard tell that smoking ground glass isn't very good for you hmm

So there you go. Sand blasted to look more sparkly. Hence the derogatory term for cannabis bought on the street amongst those that know as "gritweed". "Soapbar" is another term for the so called dealer hashish, which has also had goodness knows what added to it.

sarkymare Mon 19-Jan-15 16:18:54

Thank you sunny, spring and of course lurking.

So its not actually anything to do with weight at all? I did think they couldn't be making much from the weight it would give.

Well there you go, I learn something new everyday. Thank you.

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